MaxPower and I in a Big Pot

[Jezebel]

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 <font color="purple">(MaxPower)</font> raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 <font color="purple">(MaxPower)</font> caps</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (21.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MaxPower raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MaxPower calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (16.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MaxPower bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (20.66 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MaxPower bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">MaxPower 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 28.66 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 28.66 BB, between Hero and MaxPower.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MaxPower (28.66 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Ah 7h (full house, sevens full of aces).
MaxPower shows Kc Kh (full house, kings full of sevens).
Outcome: MaxPower wins 28.66 BB. </font>

[MaxPower]

To add a little background, I was having a really terrible night. One of those nights where nothing goes right. I didn't know that UTG was Jezebel.

MP1 and MP2 - there really aren't words that could possibly describe how bad these two players are. In this session alone, MP1 cold-called more raises than I have in my entire life. They were both seeing 60-70% of the flops.

[TazQ]

I think it's pretty obvious he has KK. Especially if you know he is a 2+2er and most likely on autopilot multitabling. He bet the turn knowing full well there is nearly a 99% chance he'll be called. You can't beat anything he has here. AA/KK, and it looks exactly like how a tight/aggro would play KK trying to win a huge pot on the flop.

[Bob T.]

I don't like your coldcall preflop. When it comes back to you for 3 bets, I would have folded. You are probably dominated at best, and you also might have to call a cap as well.

After that, I can't really argue with your plays. The raise on the flop seems a little aggressive from Maxpower, but the pot was fairly large preflop, and if he was planning on taking a free card on the turn, and calling the river, it seems ok.

Good luck,
play well,

Bob T.

[Jezebel]

Bob,
The preflop call was definetly shaky and a call I rarely make. When the action got back to me, I figured I was getting 13-2 against one good player and several calling stations. Having Max on my left made me feel like I could max out my profit if I hit good, since I know he will bet all of his premium hands against this lineup.

[BugsBunny]

If I was you I may have let this go on the turn, big pot or not. With Max capping preflop the only hands I put him on are AA (you're beat and drawing dead) KK (you're beat and drawing to a 2 outer - one of the 2 remaing A's) AK (probably suited) (you're beat and drawing to a 2 outer - one of the 2 remaing 7's), with an outside possibility of QQ - but once he bets the turn I eliminate QQ as even an outside possibility. I just don't see him betting QQ when the board has both an A and a K on it.

So we have AA (1 way since 2 A's are out), KK (3 ways) and AK (1 way if we assume suited - the AK [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]). That makes it most likely he has KK.

So at best you're drawing to a 2 outer, a 22 to 1 shot. Factoring in the possibility of already drawing dead the pot would have to give you better than 22 to 1, and at this point it's just not close enough IMO.

[MaxPower]

I'll admit my raise on the flop was a little much. Still, it was a huge pot and wasn't about to fold. I think if we posted this on the micro-limit forum we would get 10 posts telling me to fold on the flop.

The two guys behind me could have had anything. Jezebel was certainly showing a lot of strength by betting the flop, so I've got to assume I am drawing to 2 outs.

[Bob T.]

Well, if you are going to get out of line, do it on a small bet street [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

Good luck,
play well,

Bob T.