AQo in a Capped PF - How Would You Play This Differently?

[MaxPower]

It is almost always going to be correct to take the most aggressive action possible when the pot is this large. You should not be uncomfortable with this flop.

You need to raise to cut down the drawing odds of anyone with a pocket pair.

[Jezebel]

Bernie,

You are correct, I failed to consider that 27-3 is not really the same as 9-1 when it comes to implied odds. My mistake.

[GuyOnTilt]

Hey ID4,

I realize this thread is kind of old in Small Stakes land (6 or 7 hours), but I feel the need to chime in since there's misinformation going around in it.

You have a clear fold preflop. You also have a clear raise on the flop. You WANT KK, QQ, and JJ to fold. Smooth-calling in hopes that they call or raise is simply WRONG. You want them out of this pot. You're giving them correct odds to call one small bet if you don't raise here. You simply have to raise the flop. Calling is definitely incorrect.

GoT

[The Dude]

Just so everybody knows, GuyOnTilt put QQ in that list on accident. He doesn't really want QQ to fold here, his finger must have spasmed.

Everything else he said is correct.

BTW, happy 'you-know-what', GoT.

[Luke]

You also have a clear raise on the flop. You WANT KK, QQ, and JJ to fold.

Sorry about being nitpicky, but in this specific case, you'd like QQ to call. QQ is drawing completely dead here against AQ. Of course you'd still like KK and JJ to fold and I agree raising the flop is the right play.

Luke

[balkii]

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I really don't see any point in raising the flop.

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balkii: [ QUOTE ]
Cause KK QQ and JJ have very easy folds when he raises the flop.

If you can string em along for 1 bet at a time thought, they might call down.

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I shuddered when I read balkii's response. It's soooooo bad.



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LOL
Ok ok I didnt count the bets in the pot. Question: In what size pot WOULD you want KK and JJ to chase? 15BB? 12 BB?

[Mikey]

Hey nice to have you back and posting. Let me know the next time you head down to AC.

[Dynasty]

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Ok ok I didnt count the bets in the pot. Question: In what size pot WOULD you want KK and JJ to chase? 15BB? 12 BB?

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KK or JJ need 22.5:1 pot odds to make their call correct if we assume they only know their own two cards and the three flop cards. So, the pot in this hand was actually a bit short. But, calling with KK/JJ would still be correct due to implied odds.

Where's the line? It's at that point where KK/JJ couldn't make up their lost flop equity by getting you to pay off on the turn and river when they hit their two-outer. That would take a lit bit of math work.

My gut tells me it's somewhere between 17-20 small bets.

[balkii]

oops meant SBs instead of BBs

[N4CER1]

IMO I would have just mucked it preflop after all raising after you came in.....I would think I was beat, I woud have to flop a monster to stay in the hand...I would not like a Q on the flop, KK AA has you beat and if a K or A comes on the flop turn or river you are beat...If an A flops all you can do is check and call all of the way down to maybe AA KK AK.......Pre-flop there was not enough in the pot to make a call correct....IMO