Cold Calling

[balkii]

I am with Nottom on this one. I have coldcalled 58 times in 52,000 hands. 88 is my most common. BB/hand is -.10

Coldcalling is just no fun.

[Elizabeth-Anne]

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I don't have any stats on this, but I do have some general rules that I apply to cold calling. OF course there's many things to consider but in general, I'll cold-call with:

Suited Aces (from any position)
QQ-99 (from any position)
88-66 (from MP on)
Low PP (from late position or blinds)
AKo, AKs, (from any position)
KQs (from any position)
AQs, QJs, JTs (from med to late position)
AQo, AJ, AT (from late position or blinds)
med suited con (from blinds)
KJs and the like (from the blinds, occasionally from CO or button)



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If you're generally cold-calling with AT and AJ in LP, then you really need to work on your game. You haven't even passed the Ace-Jack test.

[GuidoSarducci]

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In 12,119 hands I've made pre-flop cold calls on 40 occasions.

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My instinct tells me my figures are low in terms of frequency of cold calls.

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Umm, yeah... .003% of the time you call. I'd say that's pretty much never.

[MaxPower]

I guess I'm real loose because I've cold called 186 times in 49,715 hands. I'm winning .39BB per hand when I cold call.

The vast majority of this profit comes from pocket pairs (JJ-66) in multiway pots, which makes sense.

[pudley4]

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I don't have any stats on this, but I do have some general rules that I apply to cold calling. OF course there's many things to consider but in general, I'll cold-call with:

Suited Aces (from any position)
QQ-99 (from any position)
88-66 (from MP on)
Low PP (from late position or blinds)
AKo, AKs, (from any position)
KQs (from any position)
AQs, QJs, JTs (from med to late position)
AQo, AJ, AT (from late position or blinds)
med suited con (from blinds)
KJs and the like (from the blinds, occasionally from CO or button)



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If you're generally cold-calling with AT and AJ in LP, then you really need to work on your game. You haven't even passed the Ace-Jack test.





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I'm marking this thread as one of my favorites - Elizabeth Anne actually posted poker advice...and it's correct!!!

[NotBannedYet]

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in general, I'll cold-call with:

Suited Aces (from any position)
QQ-99 (from any position)
88-66 (from MP on)
Low PP (from late position or blinds)
AKo, AKs, (from any position)
KQs (from any position)
AQs, QJs, JTs (from med to late position)
AQo, AJ, AT (from late position or blinds)
med suited con (from blinds)
KJs and the like (from the blinds, occasionally from CO or button)


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Are all your 1,100+ posts filled with this much insight and astounding poker advice?

It's no wonder you believed in pattern maps.

[Sheriff Fatman]

Wow, this thread has had a much better response since its unexpected bump.

Since posting my note I've actually experimented with loosening up slightly regarding the marginal decisions (mainly medium pocket pairs) but this subject certainly seems to me to be a 'grey area' as far as strategy is concerned. I'm not yet sure about whether or not my 'ultra tight' approach is actually giving up too much (although I certainly can't fault those who use it) which is why I'm monitoring the overall effectiveness of these decisions and experimenting a little. I'm sure there's an optimum level somewhere but I'm not sure if I've found it yet!

I think 'ultra-tight' is a good way for a player to start out when faced with a cold-call. However, once a player has reached a certain level of proficiency then, provided the decisions are used in appropriate circumstances, I think there is potentially some merit in a looser style of play, as MaxPower's figures seem to indicate. I think this is the stage where I've reached in my development.

The information I'm using is not one of the obvious numbers within PokerTracker, but the ability to monitor such decision-making is one of the reasons why I find it so valuable. However, as my original post indicated, there is little information out there against which to compare myself. However there are a lot of PT users on this forum with the potential to provide feedback.

Many thanks to those who've responded so far and for the unexpected bump which has kick started the hoped-for debate.

Sheriff

[MaxPower]

I don't think I am any looser with cold calling than you are. We are both cold calling with .3% of our hands.

[Sheriff Fatman]

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I don't think I am any looser with cold calling than you are. We are both cold calling with .3% of our hands.


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Was working from the hands you quoted rather than the percentages. 66 is an example of the hands I'd been routinely folding. JJ I'd generally been re-raising with.

[nykenny]

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However, some players seem to have a total aversion to cold calling so, compared to some, I will propably appear to be a loose player.


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being loose is not the worst thing about cold-calling too much. cold-calling is also weak. unless you are doing it for certain deception purpose.

my $0.02