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Old 03-17-2004, 11:10 PM
Justaloser Justaloser is offline
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Default Did I overplay my hand? KK in the BB

I just sat down, and this was my first hand at the table.
No reads.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 raises, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 bets, CO calls, Hero raises, MP2 calls, CO 3-bets, Hero caps, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (10.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO calls.

River: (13.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>

Bet out? Check/call? check/fold?
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Old 03-18-2004, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: Did I overplay my hand? KK in the BB

Against the typical Party opponent, you played this hand fine. Bet out on the river, and call a raise.
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Old 03-18-2004, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: Did I overplay my hand? KK in the BB

I'd bet. You will almost always be ahead of MP2, so you just have to worry about CO. His flop play looks like a momster or a big draw. He would have most likely gotten another raise in with two pair or a set, so I like your chances.
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Old 03-18-2004, 03:26 AM
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Default Re: Did I overplay my hand? KK in the BB

I think it's an easy bet/call

I'm liking MP2 for something like AK or AQ or maybe JJ/QQ and the CO for something like diamonds or AT, so I'm thinking you're ahead and will get at leat 1 call maybe both.
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Old 03-18-2004, 09:03 AM
J.N. J.N. is offline
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Default Re: Did I overplay my hand? KK in the BB

MP bets the flop - but don't reraise you, so i put him on a (flush)-draw, toppair or a fearfully played overpair. Cutoff calls and reraises - this is most of the time a flushdraw or (unlikley) a set (no turn raise).
Given the chance the both players are on draws it's worth to consider to checkraise a bet from MP (edit: if he has a hand you will beat him) and check/call a bet from the cutoff. But with no reads on the players i prefer simply to bet and expect a call from MP.
As a side note i don't like your flop check on this board.
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Old 03-18-2004, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: Did I overplay my hand? KK in the BB

CO call-reraised on the flop, so I´m guessing a set or a strong draw.

How would flatcalling the 3bet on the flop and leading the turn and calling down if he raises a blank be ?
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Old 03-18-2004, 09:31 AM
Justaloser Justaloser is offline
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Default Re: Did I overplay my hand? KK in the BB

As a side note i don't like your flop check on this board.

It wasn't a check, it was a check raise.
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Old 03-18-2004, 09:33 AM
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In the past, I probably would have just checked here. Not any more!

I bet, both folded.
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Old 03-18-2004, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: Did I overplay my hand? KK in the BB

I dont miss that it was a c/r. Precisely I shoud have wrote "I don't like your check with the intention to checkraise on this board".
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Old 03-18-2004, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: Did I overplay my hand? KK in the BB

Precisely I shoud have wrote "I don't like your check with the intention to checkraise on this board".

Please explain.

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