Ever get that calling station feeling?

JudgeRW · #1 03-16-2004, 03:01 PM

I feel 50% stupider after this hand [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, Hero calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (6 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, MP3 raises, SB folds, UTG 3-bets, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

River: (18 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG bets, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls, MP3 raises, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 24 BB
Main Pot: 24 BB, between Hero, MP3 and UTG. > Pot won by UTG (24 BB).

Results in white below: 
UTG shows 4d 4h (three of a kind, fours).
Hero shows Ah Th (one pair, aces).
MP3 shows 2c 2h (three of a kind, twos).
Outcome: UTG wins 24 BB.

Festus22 · #2 03-16-2004, 03:06 PM

Raise preflop for sure.

The rest of the hand doesn't look bad. Sometimes calling IS correct.

sthief09 · #3 03-16-2004, 03:15 PM

I disagree that calling is correct...

Flop: All you have is a backdoor draw and a potentially unclean ace with a weak kicker. Either raise to clean up your pair outs (or because you believe you're ahead) or fold. This is NOT the kind of hand you want in a 7-way pot. By just calling you are giving up all hope on your pair outs. Someone could've hit their ace's kicker and you aren't likely to win with a T, so what you're really hoping for is a flush.

2 more reasons I didn't like this call:
1. you had NO way of figuring out someone had a set, because you never raised to see how they'd react
2. there were still 2 people behind you that could've been waiting to raise, and 2 people that checked that could be check-raising out of the blinds, given the weakness on the board.

Festus22 · #4 03-16-2004, 04:00 PM

You make a good point. This hand is just bleh without the preflop raise. The hand just plays out SO much differently raised versus limped preflop.