jumping ship on the river-problem hand?

krazyace5 · #1 02-23-2004, 05:00 AM

I have been noticing that I give up easily on the river lately when I think I am outdrawn, this is just one example of my wimpy play. How bad does this hurt your game?

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold 'Em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (7 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (10 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, Hero folds, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: 11 BB

Emmitt · #2 02-23-2004, 05:34 AM

looks like he had two pairs, but if you felt that the odds of beating him were greater than 11/1 then it is worth calling. it's marginal but I probably would have called this unless my opponent was tight

SpaceAce · #3 02-23-2004, 06:01 AM

It looks to me like your opponent picked up two pair on the turn or maybe a flush draw to go with his weak pair. I suppose he could also have been slow playing a big hand. The thing is, I don't think that four on the river beat you. If you got outdrawn in this hand, I think it happened on the turn. Since you called on the turn, I think you should probably call the river. Even if your opponent filled up on the river, you were behind on the turn so if you were going to fold I think that would have been the time to do it.

SpaceAce

Trix · #4 02-23-2004, 08:41 AM

Most people checkraise a strong hand here, call him.

chief444 · #5 02-23-2004, 10:15 AM

I agree...definite call on the river. If you are that sure you are beat, then fold on the turn. If this is a typical micro limit game, then I would say a good drawing hand is just as likely as someone holding onto a 4. I'd say there is much better than a 1:11 chance that you win this pot.