Bots now cost

[MS Sunshine]

the pricing for winholdem has just been released. and winholdem is now on sale and most of the existing licenses will expire within the next 24 hours.

for those that are installed, they can see the product list by clicking on the install menu then view license ... and the license page has a button that takes you to the product page.

new users will still get a free 24-hour look.

as we have said all along, pokerbot.com is a business,
intent on supplying online poker players with the best bot they can imagine.

most of you that have complained about team play will be pleased at the higher price for the team version.

winholdem support.

These guys are real beauties

MS Sunshine

[Lori]

with the best bot they can imagine.

I think he should be allowed to enter it in Kotz 9.

Lori

[HavanaBanana]

[ QUOTE ]
with the best bot they can imagine.

I think he should be allowed to enter it in Kotz 9.

Lori

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes please 100 of them.

[fluff]

The "best bot they can imagine" line is cracking me up.

If that piece of crap they peddle around as a bot is the best thing someone can imagine, what are the chances they can turn on a computer and get on the internet unassisted?

[JohnShaft]

most of you that have complained about team play will be pleased at the higher price for the team version.

F**king sickening.
These bastards need beating with a big stick.

[Adde]

This is hard to say, but I don't think that the bot is playing *that* bad. From the long thread in Poker Theory it is clear that the default settings were playing horrible, to say the least, but think about it, how hard can it be to formalize ABC poker with correct settings? ABC is not great poker, but it is what many people here use when playing multiple tables, clearing bonuses on lower limits, etc.

I feel sick already. Should have kept my mouth closed. Nevertheless, I hate the bot, and if your opinions are part of a cover-up thing to stop the attraction, I totally missed it, and will gladly edit out this post within an hour. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Adde]

Funny thing, just went to the bot website to see how much they charge for it. The only thing I got a look at, before Party warned me for taking bad medicine, was the links to suported poker sites.

That has got to be the first site ever with a link to Party, and no affiliate code. Cowards! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[MS Sunshine]

to all party poker users,

if you are playing on party poker, and you have any window of any kind open on your desktop (including a browser, or email, or winholdem or whatever), and that window has the text 'winholdem' somewhere in the title bar then the party client will complain and throw a flag.

they are basically boycotting any player that has an open window with winholdem in the title bar. it does not matter what kind of window it is.

if you use winholdem you can hide your title bar text.
look on the view menu. you will find the option to hide your title bar.

if you are a stars player you should be running fine.
if you are a paradise player you should be running fine.

we will be adding support for more sites soon.

winholdem support.

I dislike Party seeing what I have running on my computer, but I like that they are trying to bar anyone using your software.

MS Sunshine

[PuffsNutz]

MS,
I dont even think I would say that Party is "Seeing" every
program Im running...Im sure the code
is comparing the "WinHoldem" title to titles running
and if a match is found then an alert it made.

I would be far more worried from a SPYWARE point
of view if it sent every title im running back
to Party Headquarters to be logged and analyzed.

Also I heard from Paradise they were coming out
with a fix, which I think would have came out in
the upgrade I downloaded 2 days ago.

Paradise unlike Party is just closing accounts for
using it.

Has anyone heard of someone getting their accounts
shut down on Paradise for using IT?

Can I submit Winholdem for a nomination for "dumbest idea of
the year" this early in the year?

Has anyone noticed that his pricing page still doesnt
work? LOL..He even posted a broken link correction.
I think its hillarious.
(Good thing he doesnt spam around here).

[PFCMcDermot]

I recently purchased the winholdem pokerbot to see how well the AI played.... well, all I can tell you is that this is the WORSTE AI bot I have ever seen play.
Do NOT waste your money on this HORRIBLE software!

Here are two different hand histories so you can all see exactly how it plays:

The first hand history is in the default mode: (bot username = PFCMcDermot)

***** Hand History for Game 403556625 *****
5/10 TexasHTGameTable (Limit) - Thu Feb 19 19:29:37 EST 2004
Table Can''t Lose (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: golfnuting ( $164)
Seat 2: rsau447423 ( $375)
Seat 3: rocketronnie ( $1270.50)
Seat 4: supraholic91 ( $505)
Seat 5: torontobluff ( $228.50)
Seat 6: PFCMcDermot ( $250)
Seat 7: Zape67 ( $298)
Seat 8: MurphyTheDog ( $237)
Seat 9: SUITSOVILLO ( $122)
Seat 10: quilldodger ( $265)
MurphyTheDog posts small blind (2)
SUITSOVILLO posts big blind (5)
PFCMcDermot posts big blind (5)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PFCMcDermot [ Ah, As ]
quilldodger folds.
golfnuting folds.
rsau447423 folds.
rocketronnie folds.
supraholic91 folds.
torontobluff folds.
PFCMcDermot checks.
Zape67 folds.
MurphyTheDog calls (3)
SUITSOVILLO checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7c, Jh, Qc ]
MurphyTheDog bets (5)
SUITSOVILLO calls (5)
PFCMcDermot calls (5)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kh ]
MurphyTheDog checks.
SUITSOVILLO checks.
PFCMcDermot checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 2c ]
MurphyTheDog checks.
SUITSOVILLO checks.
PFCMcDermot checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $28.50 | Rake: $1.50
Board: [ 7c Jh Qc Kh 2c ]
golfnuting balance $164, didn't bet (folded)
rsau447423 balance $375, didn't bet (folded)
rocketronnie balance $1270.50, didn't bet (folded)
supraholic91 balance $505, didn't bet (folded)
torontobluff balance $228.50, didn't bet (folded)
PFCMcDermot balance $268.50, bet $10, collected $28.50, net +$18.50 [ Ah As ] [ a pair of aces -- Ah,As,Kh,Qc,Jh ]
Zape67 balance $298, didn't bet (folded)
MurphyTheDog balance $227, lost $10 [ Jc 5d ] [ a pair of jacks -- Kh,Qc,Jc,Jh,7c ]
SUITSOVILLO balance $112, lost $10 [ Jd 3s ] [ a pair of jacks -- Kh,Qc,Jd,Jh,7c ]
quilldodger balance $265, didn't bet (folded)


The second hand history is in the "aggresive" mode:

***** Hand History for Game 404094569 *****
5/10 TexasHTGameTable (Limit) - Thu Feb 19 23:23:55 EST 2004
Table Cup Cakes (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: IWantUrDough ( $493)
Seat 2: SzanPanie ( $166.50)
Seat 3: Papa_WarBuck ( $467)
Seat 4: kiwiz ( $1370.50)
Seat 5: PFCMcDermot ( $238)
Seat 6: WildBullDog9 ( $406)
Seat 7: Love2Win ( $39)
Seat 8: s12pilot ( $97)
Seat 9: samlim ( $282.50)
Seat 10: dineshNJ ( $185)
samlim posts small blind (2)
dineshNJ posts big blind (5)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PFCMcDermot [ Ah, Jh ]
IWantUrDough folds.
s12pilot: whew
SzanPanie folds.
Papa_WarBuck raises (10) to 10
kiwiz calls (10)
PFCMcDermot raises (15) to 15
WildBullDog9 folds.
Love2Win calls (15)
s12pilot folds.
samlim folds.
dineshNJ calls (10)
Papa_WarBuck calls (5)
kiwiz raises (10) to 20
PFCMcDermot calls (5)
Love2Win calls (5)
dineshNJ calls (5)
Papa_WarBuck calls (5)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Td, 7h, 5s ]
dineshNJ checks.
Papa_WarBuck bets (5)
kiwiz raises (10) to 10
PFCMcDermot calls (10)
Love2Win calls (10)
dineshNJ folds.
Papa_WarBuck calls (5)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5h ]
Papa_WarBuck bets (10)
kiwiz raises (20) to 20
PFCMcDermot calls (20)
Love2Win calls (9)
Love2Win is all-In.
Papa_WarBuck calls (10)
Creating Main Pot with $175 with Love2Win
** Dealing River ** : [ 3c ]
Papa_WarBuck checks.
kiwiz bets (10)
PFCMcDermot calls (10)
Papa_WarBuck calls (10)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $175 | Side Pot 1: $63 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Td 7h 5s 5h 3c ]
IWantUrDough balance $493, didn't bet (folded)
SzanPanie balance $166.50, didn't bet (folded)
Papa_WarBuck balance $645, bet $60, collected $238, net +$178 [ Js Jc ] [ two pairs, jacks and fives -- Js,Jc,Td,5s,5h ]
kiwiz balance $1310.50, lost $60 [ Th 8h ] [ two pairs, tens and fives -- Th,Td,8h,5s,5h ]
PFCMcDermot balance $178, lost $60 [ Ah Jh ] [ a pair of fives -- Ah,Jh,Td,5s,5h ]
WildBullDog9 balance $406, didn't bet (folded)
Love2Win balance $0, lost $39 [ Tc Ac ] [ two pairs, tens and fives with ace kicker -- Ac,Tc,Td,5s,5h ]
s12pilot balance $97, didn't bet (folded)
samlim balance $280.50, lost $2 (folded)
dineshNJ balance $165, lost $20 (folded)


And these are just the beginning. The software is horrific to look at, and plays just as bad. The bot seems to know what hands to play before the flop (although position is questionable), but it has NO CLUE what to do once the flop hits the board.

What ever you do, stay away from this software. You’re better off letting your dog play for you.