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Re: Dead AA in capped pot
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Recently on the Internet Gambling forum, JayLeno posed the same quiz for pocket kings, and it was found that the pocket kings could be drawing dead preflop against only six opponents. [/ QUOTE ] Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't Black kings be drawing dead against: Black Aces Black Queens Two Red KQs pokenum -h as ac - ks kc - qs qc - kh qh - kd qd Holdem Hi: 850668 enumerated boards cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV As Ac 661510 77.76 184868 21.73 4290 0.50 0.779 Ks Kc 0 0.00 846378 99.50 4290 0.50 0.001 Qs Qc 76 0.01 846302 99.49 4290 0.50 0.001 Kh Qh 74777 8.79 736363 86.56 39528 4.65 0.110 Kd Qd 74777 8.79 736363 86.56 39528 4.65 0.110 Only 4 opponents and we get a QQ drawing nearly dead to boot or are the chops when the board is a straight flush not allowed. |
#52
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Re: Dead AA in capped pot
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Only 4 opponents and we get a QQ drawing nearly dead to boot or are the chops when the board is a straight flush not allowed. [/ QUOTE ] Right. Here, "drawing dead" is used in its strictest sense, meaning no chance of winning even a portion of the pot. The example you printed from pokenum shows that the black kings would win part of the pot 4,290 times out of 850,668 possible boards. I think that for the KK to be drawing dead, all the aces would have to be accounted for; otherwise the board could come 3-3-3-3-A for example, and everyone would be playing the board with quads. Also you need to be careful of the possibility of a straight flush on board with everyone chopping. |
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Re: Dead AA in capped pot
I cut my teeth in these 2-5 games, and I'd say there's probably about a 95+% chance that somebody else has pocket A's with this pre-flop action, assuming a TYPICAL 2-5 game. If the game was inordinately wild, OR if this was a 3-5 game (which plays way looser), then the above assumption wouldn't hold.
Anyway, I'd be interested to see if this fold would be correct given the above parameters (I still don't think it would). |
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