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Old 01-07-2004, 03:51 AM
DoctorJ DoctorJ is offline
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Default Re: the transition from UB to party

Yeah - it really is nuts. If your game selection is good (and there's no reason for it not to be at Party), you could make a pretty strong argument for literally never folding a pair on the river, heads-up against an unknown opponent. I have yet to sit in a 1-2, 2-4, 3-6, or 5-10 game where i've been faced with a bet on the river I haven't felt that my odds of winning were at least 10-15% (with a couple exceptions from unusually tight players - probably 2+2ers). Usually, the pot odds more than justify a call.

You just have to remind yourself constantly that this is a function of Party games, and don't fall into it elsewhere (unless you're playing live in California)...

Cheers...

DoctorJ
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Old 01-07-2004, 04:37 AM
AAmaz0n AAmaz0n is offline
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Default Re: got sanity?

I got beat by a clown like this today.

A8o in the BB, one EP limper, another MP limper. Flop comes
AAK

I bet, EP raises, MP calls two bets cold. With a bad kicker I just call since one of them has the other A

Turn comes K

Ok, no kicker problems now, only hand that beats me is KK, which is unlikely. EP and I raise till it's capped, MP keeps calling and I can't figure out why.

River is, of course, K

I check, knowing what's coming, as does the EP. MP bets and I call so that he can proudly show

K8o

having hit his one outer on the river.

Good thing I have a sense of humor. My PC and the cats are all still in one piece. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Shauna
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Old 01-07-2004, 09:15 AM
RollaJ RollaJ is offline
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Default Re: the transition from UB to party

That was actually a weak fold in my opinion, if there is one thing I have seen wayyy too many times online it is the:
"F*** this game Im on tilt Im leaving anyways so I dont care about my last F***ing $X" raise [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

To give you an idea I play NL a lot and whenever someone with under 10 BB left raises all in preflop I call (or reraise) with any Ace and any pair as well as some other random hands, and yes it is profitable.
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Old 01-07-2004, 11:46 AM
Lazymeatball Lazymeatball is offline
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Default Re: the transition from UB to party

If you were going to fold for one more bet, why try and value bet the river?

check to possibly induce a bluff and call it.


edit: you folded to the turn raise, not river, makes more sense now. my bad.
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