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  #101  
Old 12-17-2003, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: QQ , JJ , TT

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I win 65% of my 4 QQ v AKs match-ups.

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I wish my QQs were that good against AKs.
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Old 12-17-2003, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: QQ , JJ , TT

no kidding.. even when the QQ shares one of AKs's suits, QQ is only 52.88% to win
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Old 12-17-2003, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: And the winner is...

I GAVE THAT ANSWER ON THE 15TH. LJH
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Old 12-17-2003, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: And the winner is...

YES BUT ALAS IT IS WRONG
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:35 PM
1p0kerb0y 1p0kerb0y is offline
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Default The correct answer is 77

Surprised nobody got it yet. 77 gives you a slight advantage over 88 when the board reads 9TJQK against the AA.This one was easy.Got another?
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:47 PM
1p0kerb0y 1p0kerb0y is offline
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Default Re: The correct answer is 77

Don't know if my second post went thru so here it is:

88 with a board of 9TJQK will lose to AA
77 with a board of 89TJQ will beat AA

77 is the best hand because of the extra straight possibilities
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Old 12-17-2003, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: The correct answer is 77

zonk!

it's TT.
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Old 12-17-2003, 10:15 PM
1p0kerb0y 1p0kerb0y is offline
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Default Re: The correct answer is 77

how is TT an advantage over 77?
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Old 12-17-2003, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: The correct answer is 77

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77 with a board of 89TJQ will beat AA

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really?

TT has an advantage over 77 because it's harder to be counterfeited by two higher pairs on the board. 77 doesn't look to good on a JJ99x board.

i don't understand why this thread won't die, the math is there
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Old 12-17-2003, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: The correct answer is 77

I disagree with these responses. I believe the answer is KK. If the question was only "What hand is best against Aces," then the answer is 65s.

However, since even pocket two's have a 50% chance against AKs, this gives a huge advantage to measuring pairs against AKs. This advantage is significant enough to totally skew the rankings against Aces towards the pairs, despite suited combinatations doing 1-5% better than pairs against Aces. KK is a large favorite (~65%) against AKs, so that goes a long way.

This rings true even when you account for the fact that AA is twice as likely to appear than AKs.

The ranking of the pairs does follow what some of you are talking about, though, as pairs like TT, 88, 77, 66 are slightly more valuable than QQ or JJ.

Rob

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