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#11
12-09-2003, 11:10 AM
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Re: Shrewd players, not whores. Yes. nt
I play at intercasino regularly. It's my understanding that you're allowed one "all-in" per 24 hours. Am I wrong?
How can you abuse that? If you're so inclined, you get one shot to try to "cheat" your table and then you better pray that you don't have a real boot in the middle of a big hand. Personally, I value that "all-in" as much as my entire bankroll because I did miss out on a pretty big pot ONCE when my all-in got "used" on a SB about an hour earlier. If my all-in is used I'm done for the day. I would say if there's any abuse of all-in, it's the knuckle heads who show up to the table with minimum stake and continue to re-buy for minimimum buy-ins. 
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#12
12-09-2003, 11:14 AM
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Re: All-in abuse out of hand at Intercasino/Cryptologic
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I've played online three years and have never encountered hardly any all-in abuse -- until starting at the Cryptologic collection of poker rooms (Specifically Intercasino). [/ QUOTE ] While I agree there are much more all ins at cryptologic sites (including inter-casino) I see no reason to believe that there is more all in cheating. The problem is there software, and in particular their check/fold button. It does not activate until you have a bet to call, and sometimes unchecks after you have checked it. For instance you are sitting there with 72o in the big blind, and would like to hit the check fold button, but cannot until someone raises. So you have to wait until it’s your turn to act before hitting the check button. Which means that you have to be watching the game all the time to play in a timely manner, something you cannot do easily when playing multiple games. It gets worse however, say you call on the button which some dubious holding like 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and see a flop of K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. You happily select the check/fold button. To your great surprise a few minutes later (a couple of players probably having the same problem and timing out) you find your check/fold select has become unchecked and the software wants you to select you action again. This is much worse, as after hitting the check/fold button and seeing someone bet, you think you are done with the hand and don’t look back at the game until the hand is over. I have timed out several times in this situation. Cryptologic really should do something about the check/fold button. It slows their games down dreadfully and leads to posts like this one accusing the cryptologic sites of having more all in cheating.
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#13
12-09-2003, 11:17 AM
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Re: All-in abuse out of hand at Intercasino/Cryptologic
1) The all-in abuse is indeed way out.
2) The softwaresucks - the side turns up when: you check the fold box, then again when you actually fold the hand, then again when the hand is over, then again when a new hand starts, then again when its your turn to act. VERY frustrating when you play more tables or doing something else on the net. 3) the time to act is to short - more time to act, and no daily all-ins unless you are disconnected. 4) But the players sucks hard. 5) And monthly 40$ for 250 hands is great. Thats why I every month play 250 hands at Intercasino, cashout, play 250 at Caribbean sun, cashout and wait untill next month to play again. They will get a lot more action from me if they change the first 3 items - otherwise I keep playing only for the bonus!
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#16
12-09-2003, 11:37 AM
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Not
If you'd read a little closer, you'd know that one of my culprits admitted what he did, and said everyone did. Another poster reported the same thing -- a person admitting it and not knowing it was a big deal. An additional person I berated repeatedly -- and she never denied it. Nor were they in the BB. There's so little enforcement of all-in abuse that these cads are open about it. This is evidence, not software.
It's poor reading comprehension skills that lead to posts like the above.
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#17
12-09-2003, 11:44 AM
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one per day
Plenty of people do not feel like saving their all-ins. So the creeps are guaranteed the right to cheat once per day, which they invariably do on big pots. And with the perception that "everyone does it," it happens a lot. You just haven't been burned yet. Sometimes they'll do it on the last hand of the night, so they have a reset next day when they play again.
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#18
12-09-2003, 11:57 AM
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Re: Not
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I've played online three years and have never encountered hardly any all-in abuse -- until starting at the Cryptologic collection of poker rooms (Specifically Intercasino). [/ QUOTE ] I was mearly responding to this statment, explaining why there are more all ins at Cryptologic sites. [ QUOTE ] one of my culprits admitted what he did [/ QUOTE ] While it is likely that the people that admitted cheating actually were, it is not guaranteed. There are people who will admitted to cheating when they were not, or not reply to an accusation because they cannot be bothered or did not notice your chat In fact I have admitted cheating in situations where it is 200% obvious to someone with half a brain that I could not possibly be, just wanted to wind up the prat accusing me. [ QUOTE ] and said everyone did. [/ QUOTE ] I suspect here he is here referring to the affect caused by the software, not the fact that he personally knows lots of all in cheats. However I believe there are more all in cheating at Cryptologic sites; Mainly due to the copycat principal; (Everyone else appears to be doing it so I will) and the cover principle (If challenged I can use the bad software as an excuse).
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#20
12-09-2003, 12:16 PM
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Re: All-in abuse out of hand at Intercasino/Cryptologic
I think you just have to sit out.
I challenged in chat the guy I saw doing it every round. He didn't reply but left the table the next time the BB came round to him. For another dumb software bug I found last week, see this.
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