Passing up 7:1 pot odds with KQo

[45suited]

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Now, I'm not itching to get my stack in everytime if I only flop one K or Q. I'm shooting for two pair or better, but I think you can still make some money with just TP2K here.

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Well, I mean, if I'm shooting for two pair, then I could call with anything. If fact, I'd rather call here with low suited connectors than with KQo.

You don't think it's siginificant that there has been a raise and two callers? First, I could easily be dominated by someone. Second, I'm playing the hand OOP. And I don't have a large enough stack to find out where I'm at w/o it really hurting my stack. So, I can't play it strong at all even if I flop TP. Which might allow even one of the callers to luck into a hand that beats me.

And it's so easy to just fold and move on. Use my skill at bubble play to my advantage and keep a healthy stack.

I honestly think that KQo, in this particular case, is one of the worst hands to have here. Again, I'd call with something like 67s before calling with this.

[Burno]

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I honestly think that KQo, in this particular case, is one of the worst hands to have here. Again, I'd call with something like 67s before calling with this.

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I don't think KQ is as bad you are making it out to be in this situation. Assuming your opponents are typical, KQ dominates far more hands in their range than it is dominated by. Do you agree?

KQ is a trouble hand in a lot of situations because unless it flops hard, you are often in danger of being dominated or simply 2nd best. But I think the reverse is also worth considering. Flops that hit KQ hard(6QK, TJA) often give a the PFR a hand he'll stack off with.

[45suited]

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KQ is a trouble hand in a lot of situations because unless it flops hard, you are often in danger of being dominated or simply 2nd best. But I think the reverse is also worth considering. Flops that hit KQ hard(6QK, TJA) often give a the PFR a hand he'll stack off with.

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That is a very good point.

RESULTS: In THIS case, it worked out for me.

UTG had AK, one of the callers had KT. Don't know what the other caller had.

Obviously I'm not saying that because I dodged a bullet in this case that I necessarily made the 'correct' decision. But I thought that the hand would generate a good discussion.

[Burno]

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But I thought that the hand would generate a good discussion.

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And I believe it has. I'm starting to get the feeling that maybe it's close enough to be nearly irrelevant, although this is a game based on the accumulation of small edges over time [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] I'm eager to hear a couple of the big guns weigh in.

Somebody go wake curtains up.

[kyro]

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Somebody go wake curtains up.

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Let the guy do his chick in peace. Jeez.

45, I call that hand all day long as well. Play smart on the flop and you should be OK.

[Insty]

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Well, I mean, if I'm shooting for two pair, then I could call with anything. If fact, I'd rather call here with low suited connectors than with KQo.

You don't think it's siginificant that there has been a raise and two callers? First, I could easily be dominated by someone. Second, I'm playing the hand OOP. And I don't have a large enough stack to find out where I'm at w/o it really hurting my stack. So, I can't play it strong at all even if I flop TP. Which might allow even one of the callers to luck into a hand that beats me.

And it's so easy to just fold and move on. Use my skill at bubble play to my advantage and keep a healthy stack.

I honestly think that KQo, in this particular case, is one of the worst hands to have here. Again, I'd call with something like 67s before calling with this.

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Easy fold for all these reasons.

I think this is a real chip bleeding situation, sure 50/1000 is not much, but there's no way you hit a good enough flop enough times to make this worthwhile.

[caretaker1]

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You don't think it's siginificant that there has been a raise and two callers? First, I could easily be dominated by someone. Second, I'm playing the hand OOP. And I don't have a large enough stack to find out where I'm at w/o it really hurting my stack. So, I can't play it strong at all even if I flop TP. Which might allow even one of the callers to luck into a hand that beats me.

And it's so easy to just fold and move on. Use my skill at bubble play to my advantage and keep a healthy stack.

I honestly think that KQo, in this particular case, is one of the worst hands to have here. Again, I'd call with something like 67s before calling with this.

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My thoughts exactly, though I'm probably a tighter caller than most.