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Re: The definitive post on 22s v 33s (with some comments on 55s)
ive been 4-tabling the 55s for 15 roi the past 2 weeks. only 20 or so a day so really no sample size to speak of
but im not looking to "double up" early. im looking to play solid hands early on, and use early reads to see who the loose donks are at the table, and hopefully get in with a good hand v. them. by the 50/100 level, im glad to have a stack around 1500. sometimes ill capitalize on a donk and double up through him, but a lot of the chips i get during the first three levels are through solid value betting after that its a lot of blind stealing, followed by bubble play. blinds are so high by this point if im not a big stack, im doing the push/fold thing a lot. 90% of the players i face at the 55s, including multi-tabling "regulars" (McShove comes into mind) dont seem to play well post-flop in the first three levels. i find my NL cash game background helps a lot here - i tend to see way too many people overvaluing hands when they still have 30+BBs in their stacks. |
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Re: The definitive post on 22s v 33s (with some comments on 55s)
also i cannot comment on 22s 33s or lower because i started with the 55s. i can only assume the post-flop play there is exponentially worse than what i am seeing here.
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Re: The definitive post on 22s v 33s (with some comments on 55s)
A few points....first off, the 55s are a different animal than what I have been playing the last month and a half.
[ QUOTE ] but im not looking to "double up" early [/ QUOTE ] I think that perhaps the most interesting thing about the party sng is that it is highly possible to fold your way into the money. As such, I agree. But, lets face it doubling up early definately helps your chances of cashing. [ QUOTE ] by the 50/100 level, im glad to have a stack around 1500. [/ QUOTE ] Oh absolutely. I usually am happy with t1100 at level 4. [ QUOTE ] after that its a lot of blind stealing, followed by bubble play. blinds are so high by this point if im not a big stack, im doing the push/fold thing a lot. [/ QUOTE ] SHHHHHHHH!!!! The thing about the 55s is that you usually don't have to play pushbot poker too often as the blinds dont get too too big until level 8. [ QUOTE ] i find my NL cash game background helps a lot here - i tend to see way too many people overvaluing hands when they still have 30+BBs in their stacks. [/ QUOTE ] Part of the reason that I am still at the lower levels is due to the fact that I played a ton of mtts in the last two months without any significant cashes. I can full well say that playing a 30 bb stack is the hardest part of mtts, so your statement hits spot on. Your nl cash experience is definately helpul. |
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Re: The definitive post on 22s v 33s (with some comments on 55s)
its even more important in 55s as i just realized lower buy-ins DONT have the 1000 starting chip stack (which is also why i think the 55s are pretty fishy to start with)
i find the blinds start to get high once they hit 150/300 but i often find myself getting very aggro by the time they hit 100/200, sometimes even 75/150 doubling up early definitely helps you cashing, of course, but from what ive seen, it doesnt help as much as you'd think - i find a lot of times how my early game goes in levels 1-3 does not affect the outcomes of my games as much as i thought it would. which is why there are some simple things i excersize early on: - pot control with 1-pair hands (can be more important than 'protecting your hand' in many situations) - playing in position - much less completing/playing from the blinds i just find that playing a nice, aggro game later on helps a lot more in terms of cashing/1sts. you steal blinds once at 75/150, thats 225 chips right there w/o a single showdown, while at levels 1-3 thats a good-size pot that you have to have the best hand to show down with |
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