NLP at poker?

Martin Aigner · #1 11-26-2003, 04:07 AM

I´m thinking about making a course in NLP. Poker is not the only reason why I´m interested in it, but I admit that if one can use NLP sucessful at the poker table it would have some huge influence to my decission. Anyone has some experience and knows whether NLP can be of any help on the poker tables? I´ve checked the archives but haven´t found a lot about it.

Best regards

Martin Aigner

PseudoPserious · #2 11-26-2003, 11:41 AM

Okay, I'll bite...

What's NLP?

PP

Jedi Poker · #3 11-26-2003, 12:12 PM

Once you're half-way into your NLP practitioner training, you'll notice that your tilt tendencies have been cut down to close to ZERO. But that is only the tip of the iceberg as far as mental state control is concerned. In the weeks and months that follow, you'll realize that you are able to enter any mental state at will and control the intensity of these mental states with the same level of precision in which you can control the volume of your radio or CD player. For example, if you CHOOSE and DECIDE to trigger the mental state of "happiness", you can enter and exit that state regardless of what is going on in the world around you. Once you're inside that state, you can amplify it to "extreme joy" or you can de-amplify it down to "just basically happy, overall". You can do the same with anger, sorrow, being "in the zone", being "decisive", being "objective", being "curious", being "creative" and any other mental state. In addition, you'll also get good at deciding what mental states to get into given the context or an objective.

Another benefit of NLP is that you'll become totally congruent. For example, people play poker for various reasons. Some do it for the "intellectual challenge". Others do it for the "money". One might do it for the "excitement". Another might be playing "to temporarily get away from life's daily hassles". The problem is these can get in each other's way thus resulting in inner conflict. NLP will provide you with the tools that will enable you to eliminate inner conflict very effectively. For instance, once you have decided to "play to maximize your long-term EV", you will be playing for that reason 100%. The other motives will have ZERO interference.

A major benefit of NLP training is that you will become the most observant player at the table. I would say my level of concentration went up at least 5,000% after my NLP training. Noticing changes in another person's blink rates, breathing patterns, tiny shifts in body posture and alignment has become second nature to me. I don't even try. I just perceive them.

I also noticed among my very serious classmates is that their sense of humor went up tremendously. Along with their skills to get along with others. The shy ones become very confident. The talkative ones learned how to be more introverted. One guy had extremely low self-esteem but became a very happy and contented person by the fourth session. Miraculous things happened.

warlockjd · #4 11-26-2003, 08:07 PM

Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP)

BogeyWan · #5 11-26-2003, 08:22 PM

I'm clueless as well.....
What exactly is neuro-linguistic programming?

archmagi · #6 11-26-2003, 10:08 PM

hmm maybe i should pick up a book...

Martin Aigner · #7 11-27-2003, 02:33 AM

Not too easy for me to explain in english, but in short: It´s a method to influence other people (e.g. useful in selling) and to read signs everybody sends uncosciously. There are different groups of people and you learn to which one of these groups somebody belongs to. After you found out to which group he belongs to you are "placing anchors" (i just translated this from german, probably you call it something else in english), and they will come back to you (to buy things,....). It´s a method which is well used by personal trainers, politicians,....

As far as I know you can´t learn it by a book. There are (pretty expensive) courses, and it takes quite some time. This explanation was really very short, you can do lots of things with it, but I don´t have a) the knowledge so far and b) the time right now anyway (gotta go to work).

Best regards

Martin Aigner

DPCondit · #8 11-27-2003, 06:40 PM

It is more than just influencing others. There are many methods of altering your own belief systems, changing bad habits, creating "resource states" to fire up your motivation or put yourself in a different frame of mind when necessary, curing phobias, etc.

There are many books on the subject, some of the older ones are now hard to find. One can learn quite a bit without ever going to a training.

Don

Cyndie · #9 11-29-2003, 03:57 AM

I believe you are talking about creating your own reality with different terms or jargon...fascinating part about creating your own reality is being sure to remember that other people have the right to create their reality...as a result, the term "reality" takes on different meanings.

The other key to poker and creating your own reality is that "creating certain cards" is not what one does...it spoils the game...what one does is actively become aware of what the right cards are...and then the "zone" opens more!

DPCondit · #10 11-29-2003, 05:00 AM

If anyone is basing their poker game on "creating certain cards", then that person is headed for some serious problems. Reality is reality, but your attitudes and behaviours are within your control.

Good luck,
Don