500NL 5/5 Blinds AA hand...

#1 12-21-2005, 05:32 PM

You don't say your position relative to the blinds, but I think I would have either limped pf looking to re-pop if I was in early position or raised bigger in middle or late position.

As the hand played out, I don't mind your flop bet, but I think you're beat. It looks like George is holding the Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and was fine calling on the flop with no draws present, but when the straight and flush draw hit on the turn he is going to make you pay to draw.

I don't know if I would be able to get away from my aces in the moment, but that might be the best thing here. You didn't show any weakness for him to be trying to take advantage of, which suggests he has a real hand (I'm thinking KQ or QJ).

If you are going to continue with the hand, you have to push right here while you have some fold equity if he doesn't have a good kicker.

GL

#2 12-21-2005, 05:39 PM

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If you are going to continue with the hand, you have to push right here while you have some fold equity if he doesn't have a good kicker.

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He's not folding a queen. if hero pushes, it has to be because he thinks his hand is best.

#3 12-21-2005, 05:48 PM

Depending on the villian, a push might fold a crappy suited Q. Thinking about it further, any hand containing a Q in this spot might not fold Q-9, Q-10 and Q-J just picked up a straight draw to go with their trips.

Like I said, I don't know if I could do it, but hero should lay down the aces. Again, if you can't lay them down, push and hope for the best.

#4 12-21-2005, 05:54 PM

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Thinking about it further, any hand containing a Q in this spot might not fold Q-9, Q-10 and Q-J just picked up a straight draw to go with their trips.

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I still think this villain isn't folding a queen, but they didn't pick up a straight draw.

lapoker17 · #5 12-21-2005, 06:20 PM

check the flop there dude.

btw, the action looks very weird. you "open raise" but then have position on 3 others involved in the hand?

Percula · #6 12-21-2005, 06:57 PM

Garland was UTG or UTG+1 for the hand LA

lapoker17 · #7 12-21-2005, 07:41 PM

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Garland was UTG or UTG+1 for the hand LA

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ok, so then he didn't "open raise" because there had to be a limper?

not trying to be a pain in the ass, but these details are critical in hands like this one.

edge · #8 12-21-2005, 07:41 PM

Make your standard open $30.

Fold and yell THE ISLAND OF CRETE

Garland · #9 12-22-2005, 08:26 AM

I'm sorry for the missing details. I wrote this very quickly:

First off, the game was 7-handed.

I open-raised to $20 in UTG+1. David Tuckman called on the button as well as George in the SB and a very loose BB. I had position on the blinds, but not on Dave.

I didn't like the idea of checking the flop and giving a free card to a set. And then George will still lead the turn (probably big) and give me the same issue.

Garland

Percula · #10 12-21-2005, 05:52 PM

I am a little jaded since I seen the hand and have seen lots of the greek's play.

He could very easily called your raise with KQ, QJ or even Qx as he was tilting from his run ins with Tuckman.

I agree with Vince that this is a push or fold situation and as bad as you were running, I am sure the thought crossed your mind that he indeed does have a Q and there is little chance of him folding it.