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#1
12-20-2005, 10:52 AM
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Re: 150/300 hand
ya, i just call here too...
dcifr, why do we want BB out? 
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#2
12-20-2005, 02:01 PM
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Re: 150/300 hand
i used to always be in the 3-bet or fold camp. but that was when i was a young overaggro kid. raising is fine. but so is calling here. i don't understand why people get so worked up about these kind of things.
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#3
12-21-2005, 08:15 AM
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Re: 150/300 hand
i know you asked barron but since I made the same point I will respond [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
exec summary: pot equity long version : if bb has suited connectors or similar eg 76s 97s 98o he isn't going to want to call 2. if bb has a weak Q/K(?A) like Q8 or K5 he isn't going to want to call 2. But 3 handed if he gets to call getting 5:1 (rather than 7:2) he will likely do so with these hands. If he hits the overcard to your J eg Q-rag-rag or K-rag-rag you are toast, but if you're heads up there is only half the chance that button has hit and you haven't. bb being in the pot also adds to the number of players who act behind, which doesn't help. The counter argument you may be suggesting is that suited connectors like JTs play better multiway, which is true, but the choice isn't between 1 and 5 opponents, it's between 1 and 2.
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#4
12-21-2005, 09:26 AM
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Re: 150/300 hand
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ya, i just call here too... dcifr, why do we want BB out? [/ QUOTE ] DeeJ covered it pretty well but missed 2 points: 1) if the BB was a fish then i dont mind the call from the sb b/c his range is wider and the fish is libel to make some big mistakes. in this case, we want bb out now b/c he's solid. 2) 3betting, while more expensive, vastly increases your ability to take the pot w/ a bet when both miss completely. Barron
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#5
12-21-2005, 11:43 AM
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Re: 150/300 hand
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2) 3betting, while more expensive, vastly increases your ability to take the pot w/ a bet when both miss completely. [/ QUOTE ] I think checkraising a flop after just calling preflop actually shows more strength than 3 betting preflop. Now it looks like the flop actually hit you. Just calling from the small blind with JTs and then checkraising any flops that are at all decent for gives you a lot of fold equity in my opinion.
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