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12-19-2005, 11:00 PM
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Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
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Also, I don't see how the confederate flag represents slavery. The civil war was about states' rights, not slavery. Slavery was a side issue. [/ QUOTE ] I personally think this is BS. The claim that the war was about "states rights" is a bit of semantic munging to make the southern states sound slightly more noble than they actually were, perhaps as a means of mending fences between the two halves of the country. 
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12-19-2005, 11:02 PM
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Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
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[ QUOTE ] Also, I don't see how the confederate flag represents slavery. The civil war was about states' rights, not slavery. Slavery was a side issue. [/ QUOTE ] I personally think this is BS. The claim that the war was about "states rights" is a bit of semantic munging to make the southern states sound slightly more noble than they actually were, perhaps as a means of mending fences between the two halves of the country. [/ QUOTE ] Do your personal thoughts have any basis in fact? Maybe you should read about the civil war and not rely on what you learned in 10th grade history class.
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12-19-2005, 11:05 PM
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Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Also, I don't see how the confederate flag represents slavery. The civil war was about states' rights, not slavery. Slavery was a side issue. [/ QUOTE ] I personally think this is BS. The claim that the war was about "states rights" is a bit of semantic munging to make the southern states sound slightly more noble than they actually were, perhaps as a means of mending fences between the two halves of the country. [/ QUOTE ] Do your personal thoughts have any basis in fact? Maybe you should read about the civil war and not rely on what you learned in 10th grade history class. [/ QUOTE ]I think you may have missed his point somewhat.
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12-19-2005, 11:07 PM
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Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Also, I don't see how the confederate flag represents slavery. The civil war was about states' rights, not slavery. Slavery was a side issue. [/ QUOTE ] I personally think this is BS. The claim that the war was about "states rights" is a bit of semantic munging to make the southern states sound slightly more noble than they actually were, perhaps as a means of mending fences between the two halves of the country. [/ QUOTE ] Do your personal thoughts have any basis in fact? Maybe you should read about the civil war and not rely on what you learned in 10th grade history class. [/ QUOTE ]I think you may have missed his point somewhat. [/ QUOTE ] salty- do you not like tony? i am just wondering, as i like to keep up on the comings and goings of OOT. i have already learned one poster has an IQ of 156 today.
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12-19-2005, 11:08 PM
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Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Also, I don't see how the confederate flag represents slavery. The civil war was about states' rights, not slavery. Slavery was a side issue. [/ QUOTE ] I personally think this is BS. The claim that the war was about "states rights" is a bit of semantic munging to make the southern states sound slightly more noble than they actually were, perhaps as a means of mending fences between the two halves of the country. [/ QUOTE ] Do your personal thoughts have any basis in fact? Maybe you should read about the civil war and not rely on what you learned in 10th grade history class. [/ QUOTE ]I think you may have missed his point somewhat. [/ QUOTE ] What is the point then?
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#6
12-19-2005, 11:28 PM
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Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
I plead ignorance on the rebel flag.
My feeling is that the tone of the cactus image only contributes to the general desensitization of the masses where the events of WWII are involved. I have no designs on mod status and I'm all for freedom of speech, but if someone gave me that responsibility, I'd at least use it to make sure these forums didn't contribute to this kind of ignorance. I recognize that its a joke, but its walking a blurred line. That said, I have to think some people are offended by some of the NSFW pics on this site, and once you start getting into censorship, a major cleanup/overhaul may be required. Even then, you won't keep all the people happy all the time. Tough call. Gary
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12-19-2005, 11:11 PM
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Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
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and not rely on what you learned in 10th grade history class. [/ QUOTE ] 10th grade is exactly where you learn the "states rights" revisionism. This is akin to when people say "It's not about the money, it's the principle". It's about the money.
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12-19-2005, 11:06 PM
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Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
To be sure, "states' rights" is something that most people hear in high school and parrot the rest of their lives in the hopes of sounding educated.
Such a complex event as the War of Northern Aggression can't be singled down to a single factor like "slavery" or "states' rights," with the possible exception of "economics."
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12-19-2005, 11:10 PM
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Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
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To be sure, "states' rights" is something that most people hear in high school and parrot the rest of their lives in the hopes of sounding educated. Such a complex event as the War of Northern Aggression can't be singled down to a single factor like "slavery" or "states' rights," with the possible exception of "economics." [/ QUOTE ] I consider states' rights a very broad topic. Though you are correct that the broader issue is economics.
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