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LP had Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and MHING.
Sad. I'm still looking for (non-results-oriented) input as to whether the hand was appropriately played or not. The Doc |
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Re: Flop nut straight...played right?
well you also need to consider the fact that he knows its a dangerous board to bet into wiht several limpers even with a set.
he probably want to get it to showdown cheaply. that and he nails his backdoor flush.. which is a very good possibility. |
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Re: Flop nut straight...played right?
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I guess overall what I'm trying to say is I bet less than the full pot on the turn because a) I still had the nuts and wanted lesser made hands to stick around, b) Hoped to get played back at by hands that just got there, and c) Didn't assign a high % to a runner runner spade draw being out there. [/ QUOTE ] This may be nitpicking, but what made hands call your $18 turn bet but would fold to a full-pot $25 bet? I think few if any. But a $25 bet does a better job of pricing out the admittedly-unlikely-but-nevertheless-possible draw that could beat you. I'd pot the turn. |
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Re: Flop nut straight...played right?
true. i agree with the percent that this will be a flush or not. but from my observations.. a miniraise is a strength move.. not a crying hope for a fold.
just the way he went about deciding to turn up the gas on the river is something that i take into consideration when i make an estimate as to whether my hand is good or not. |
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Re: Flop nut straight...played right?
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[ QUOTE ] I guess overall what I'm trying to say is I bet less than the full pot on the turn because a) I still had the nuts and wanted lesser made hands to stick around, b) Hoped to get played back at by hands that just got there, and c) Didn't assign a high % to a runner runner spade draw being out there. [/ QUOTE ] This may be nitpicking, but what made hands call your $18 turn bet but would fold to a full-pot $25 bet? I think few if any. But a $25 bet does a better job of pricing out the admittedly-unlikely-but-nevertheless-possible draw that could beat you. I'd pot the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Ax? The Doc |
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Re: Flop nut straight...played right?
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true. i agree with the percent that this will be a flush or not. but from my observations.. a miniraise is a strength move.. not a crying hope for a fold. just the way he went about deciding to turn up the gas on the river is something that i take into consideration when i make an estimate as to whether my hand is good or not. [/ QUOTE ] Agreed that min-raises are strength moves, especially in generally passive games. But there is some % of the time that he has a naked 6 on the river, and some % of the time it's a bluff trying to get me to fold a chop (if we both play the board, for example). I obviously must call his river raise...and probably a push too, if he chose to do that. The Doc |
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Re: Flop nut straight...played right?
its probably a coin flop situation here.. but i will personally call more times than push.
theres always the possiblity he came in with A-6 which would have been a hand you could call with on this turn. |
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Re: Flop nut straight...played right?
I think you played it perfect.
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Re: Flop nut straight...played right?
really very dangerous?
it is a great card as it makes a straight for an A and for a 6. Would i prefer a rainbow 2..sure. but nearly 3/4s of the cards on the turn is going to be second to a suit. so according to you almost any card is a dangerous card. |
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Re: Flop nut straight...played right?
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really very dangerous? it is a great card as it makes a straight for an A and for a 6. Would i prefer a rainbow 2..sure. but nearly 3/4s of the cards on the turn is going to be second to a suit. so according to you almost any card is a dangerous card. [/ QUOTE ] Well put. The Doc |
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