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12-19-2005, 02:55 AM
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Re: Overpair hands...standard plays?
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I assume you were going for a turn checkraise? [/ QUOTE ] Not really, just wanted to slow down and see what he would do in case I was way behind to AA, a set, or a straight. His pre-flop re-raise opened up the possibility he had Aces...his PFR was only 6 so I didn't see him doing that w/ a lot of hands. And the board was starting to look pretty straightish in case his pre-flop raise was a bluff. I take it you recommend a turn bet? 
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#3
12-19-2005, 03:33 AM
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Re: Overpair hands...standard plays?
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[ QUOTE ] I assume you were going for a turn checkraise? [/ QUOTE ] Not really, just wanted to slow down and see what he would do in case I was way behind to AA, a set, or a straight. His pre-flop re-raise opened up the possibility he had Aces...his PFR was only 6 so I didn't see him doing that w/ a lot of hands. And the board was starting to look pretty straightish in case his pre-flop raise was a bluff. I take it you recommend a turn bet? [/ QUOTE ] I really don't think that a set or straight are even remotely in villain's hand range unless he is incredibly aggro. I really have no problem playing a huge pot against what is very like QQ or JJ and based on the river action, I'm very confident was JJ.
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#5
12-19-2005, 08:42 PM
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Re: Overpair hands...standard plays?
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I bet the turn in the first one. What's the point of a check on that turn if you're just gonna get it all in on that river? [/ QUOTE ] Well, I just wanted to see what he would do. He was an aggressive player, so the flop call made me suspicious. That combined w/ the PF re-raise really made me think he was trying to squeeze more money out of me w/ his Aces. If he makes a big bet there I might fold. His check seemed to indicate weakness (AK maybe?), leading me to bet the river, but of course, he had 6-6 for the flopped set. Not saying it was the right play necessarily, as in hindsight I couldn't be behind to any reasonably likely hand besides AA. Just letting you into my thinking.
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#6
12-19-2005, 09:38 PM
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Re: Overpair hands...standard plays?
Hand #1:
Just from the way he played the first hand, I would have put him on JJ. I would have been in "I'm calling, but I really don't like it"-land. A country which is thankfully getting smaller and smaller by the day now. While the PF re-raise is a bit of a donk play, it disguised his hand beautifully. Realistically, I would have been stacked on this hand, although in a different manner than you were. On reflection, while re-re-raising against a rock is a bad idea (as a PF rock's re-raising range is generally AA-KK), it's the way to go vs. a LAA. Stacking an LAA is something you do with a hidden hand, letting them push the pot size out of control. Your hand range is fairly obvious here, so you might as well just get what $ you can out of him PF. While AA-KK are consistent money makers, they're not good for stacking opponents (unless they make their own set), since most of the time a person that's willing to push has an overpair beat. Hand 2: You're probably beat, but you only have to be ahead 1 time out of 3, AQ & KQ are real possibilities, so I would call as well, and not feel bad about it. But when a donk like this opens after following for two streets, this is basically the equivilant of a raise, meaning TPTK or higher. Hopefully it's a blocking bet for TPTK.
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#7
12-19-2005, 08:23 PM
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Re: Overpair hands...standard plays?
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I really don't think that a set or straight are even remotely in villain's hand range unless he is incredibly aggro. I really have no problem playing a huge pot against what is very like QQ or JJ and based on the river action, I'm very confident was JJ. [/ QUOTE ] Wrong. 6-6, flopped the set. Initially I thought the pre-flop re-raise from $2 to $6 (and the fact that he didn't donk push which you see a lot at this level) screamed AA. I thought that was his most likely hand.
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