Multitabling....necessary?

[POKhER]

To the 4 tablers of 6max:

Do you're reads suck? I mean, after 15 minutes play i expect to have atleast 3-4notes made(1each for 4guys or 4on one guy). It takes time to write these shorthanded and check the logs for muckedhands or what happened preflop if i forget.

Can you seriously do this? I can already see windows flashing and annoying beeps going off then the horrid "IM BACK" button appearing having posted your blinds [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

Just wondered... I figure you're notes must suck expect for the very experienced players.

[deception5]

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To the 4 tablers of 6max:

Do you're reads suck? I mean, after 15 minutes play i expect to have atleast 3-4notes made(1each for 4guys or 4on one guy). It takes time to write these shorthanded and check the logs for muckedhands or what happened preflop if i forget.

Can you seriously do this? I can already see windows flashing and annoying beeps going off then the horrid "IM BACK" button appearing having posted your blinds [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

Just wondered... I figure you're notes must suck expect for the very experienced players.

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I don't play at any site where I have to manually check mucked cards. PokerAce handles this for Party and Stars just fine.

My notes are not extensive, but honestly there are so many routine decisions to make that it's not really a challenge to focus on the 1 or rarely 2 difficult ones at a time and I do spend a lot of time watching the other players. Usually the aggressive players are involved in a lot of hands so you get plenty of chances to see how they play (and the passive ones you can rely more on stats). I'll often be thinking about a tough decision while I'm clicking on the 3 other tables and then come back to the tough decision.

FWIW I used to have a really hard time with more than 2, but I can handle 4 high speed stars tables without any issues unless I get involved in chat of course...

[POKhER]

Yeah i dont mean checking mucked hands really, more so if you forget a flop action or miss it whilst chatting on AIM(like i admitedly used to but now stopped) or just because you got AA on another table.

I assume you leave tables when shorthanded then as HU/3way play is alot tougher?

I've only logged few thousands at 6max so its all kind of new to me.

Have played at prima i found 2tabling there a nightmare due to so many tricky lags i come across. However on Party i find it easier as your against so many crap players the drop is winrate by 2-4tabling seems to be made up for by the poor play of you're opponents.

I'm trying to not get bored with one table as i feel i need to speed up my note taking ability and general 6max play.

However bordem is starting to set in after about 3000 hands.

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To the 4 tablers of 6max:

Do you're reads suck? I mean, after 15 minutes play i expect to have atleast 3-4notes made(1each for 4guys or 4on one guy). It takes time to write these shorthanded and check the logs for muckedhands or what happened preflop if i forget.

Can you seriously do this? I can already see windows flashing and annoying beeps going off then the horrid "IM BACK" button appearing having posted your blinds [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

Just wondered... I figure you're notes must suck expect for the very experienced players.

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Hi Pokher-

Have you tried turning off the sounds? I find the beeping on the tables puts me more on tilt than losing hands or anything else, so I went into windows and disabled all my alert sounds. That way I can still have winamp running without being tilted by my 15 second alert at party.

I've only missed one key hand like this; I had aces after a particularly brutal run of 5/10, I was shortstacked with 2.1 bb in front of me, and I was tilting, I , ahem, threw a bottle on my desk across the room and it smashed into the side of the wall as my opponent raised me on the turn, I put in my last big bet (so I thought) got out of my chair to pick up the bottle and clean up the mess, and came back to my computer to realize, the horror: I still had .1 BB left. I reached for the mouse just as the timer hit 0. Goodbye aces! Goodbye 5BB pot!

Yeah. But other than that, I like turning off alerts :-)

[gildwulf]

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To the 4 tablers of 6max:

Do you're reads suck? I mean, after 15 minutes play i expect to have atleast 3-4notes made(1each for 4guys or 4on one guy). It takes time to write these shorthanded and check the logs for muckedhands or what happened preflop if i forget.

Can you seriously do this? I can already see windows flashing and annoying beeps going off then the horrid "IM BACK" button appearing having posted your blinds [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

Just wondered... I figure you're notes must suck expect for the very experienced players.

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I 4-table 5/10 and the only time I really make notes is on tricky TAG or if a fish or LAG does something surprising (i.e. if a fish wakes up on the turn consistently with a hand, but never raises the flop; if a fish likes to donk flushdraws, etc.). I would say PAHUD predicts with about 80-90% accuracy how a bad player will act in a certain hand on every street.

[jba]

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To the 4 tablers of 6max:

Do you're reads suck? I mean, after 15 minutes play i expect to have atleast 3-4notes made(1each for 4guys or 4on one guy). It takes time to write these shorthanded and check the logs for muckedhands or what happened preflop if i forget.

Can you seriously do this? I can already see windows flashing and annoying beeps going off then the horrid "IM BACK" button appearing having posted your blinds [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

Just wondered... I figure you're notes must suck expect for the very experienced players.

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I 4-table 5/10 and the only time I really make notes is on tricky TAG or if a fish or LAG does something surprising (i.e. if a fish wakes up on the turn consistently with a hand, but never raises the flop; if a fish likes to donk flushdraws, etc.). I would say PAHUD predicts with about 80-90% accuracy how a bad player will act in a certain hand on every street.

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yeah I'd say I average about 1 note per 100 hands at a 6max table.. I really don't need a 'lmpd Q6o MP clldwn isoraise bttm pr' note on a 60/3/.2 guy

[kidcolin]

I two-table, and I get plenty of notes in, and mine aren't even shorthanded. I'm currently trying to step it up to 3-tables.

Also, I don't take many preflop notes, unless it's something that doesn't typically corellate with the stats. For example, last night a 35/10/~1.0 guy opened in the CO with 33 and popped me on the turn on a non-paint, non-flush, non-paired board. Generally, my preflop notes end up on guys with low PFR stats, because generally I see a lot of interesting hands from low PFR guys who open or 3-bet.

[milesdyson]

playing 4 tables allows you to have 100 bb downswings in about an hour instead of playing 1 or 2 where the downswing will take considerably longer. this is good for me because i would rather die trainwreck style than die senile-man-unable-to-use-his-penis-for-more-than-impersonating-spaghetti-in-his-deathbed style.

The problem for me is that I don't yet have a monitor that handles more than 1280x1024, and multitabling with overlap is a Very Bad Thing.

That said, I still play two 6-max tables at a time, and to clear my Party bonus I added one full ring to the mix.

[imported_leader]

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The problem for me is that I don't yet have a monitor that handles more than 1280x1024, and multitabling with overlap is a Very Bad Thing.

That said, I still play two 6-max tables at a time, and to clear my Party bonus I added one full ring to the mix.

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Try party beta. It will get rid of that over lap. Of course, it will also randomly crash. So enjoy.