5-10 NL Live QQ Preflop decision

joshgill17 · #1 12-16-2005, 03:18 PM

Thanks for the replies. Given my circumstances and the fact that I was at the end of my session does anyone else fold and call it a night being up 60BB. Can someone run these hands through pokerstove to see the preflop %'s to win? Based on my reads I thought i was ahead of both about 60-65% of the time. If i'm only ~ 40% to win this at showdown vs. JJ and AK does this make my lay down more sane?

Thoughts?

Percula · #2 12-16-2005, 03:57 PM

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Thanks for the replies. Given my circumstances and the fact that I was at the end of my session does anyone else fold and call it a night being up 60BB.

Thoughts?

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No. If you are playing for a living, this line of thought has merit, i.e. that 60BB profit is the difference betweening making the monthly bills or not.

But for a recreational player or part time player, this is a bad line of thought to get into. You should be focusing on making the best posible play on each and every hand. Not banking a winning session. Thinking of leaving should only enter your mind when either you just simply want to leave or the game has in some way changed making it -EV to stay in it. OK, I will add one more and that is when you have been running really bad for several sessions, banking a winning session may do wonders for your moral and improve your overall game.

I think as you get more live experience this type of situation will not be so tough for you. There is no subsitute for having played a lot of hands live. People just flat out play differently than your typical Internet player.

Sephus · #3 12-17-2005, 02:04 AM

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No. If you are playing for a living, this line of thought has merit, i.e. that 60BB profit is the difference betweening making the monthly bills or not.

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wha...?

flawless_victory · #4 12-17-2005, 04:50 AM

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No. If you are playing for a living, this line of thought has merit, i.e. that 60BB profit is the difference betweening making the monthly bills or not.

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wha...?

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dont be confused by the authoratative tone, this makes no sense.

Percula · #5 12-17-2005, 01:14 PM

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No. If you are playing for a living, this line of thought has merit, i.e. that 60BB profit is the difference betweening making the monthly bills or not.

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wha...?

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dont be confused by the authoratative tone, this makes no sense.

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It only "makes no sense" to those too young or too well off to understand what it is like to have a bills that have to be paid and only have what is in front of you to pay them.

Sephus · #6 12-17-2005, 02:55 PM

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No. If you are playing for a living, this line of thought has merit, i.e. that 60BB profit is the difference betweening making the monthly bills or not.

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wha...?

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dont be confused by the authoratative tone, this makes no sense.

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It only "makes no sense" to those too young or too well off to understand what it is like to have a bills that have to be paid and only have what is in front of you to pay them.

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if you are playing for a living, having only what is left in front of you to pay the bills, sitting in a NL game with 60 bbs, you're clearly a moron and deserve to have your electricity turned off. hopefully in a moment of clarity you realize you shouldnt even be sitting in this game, go home and get out the credit card, deposit online and start playing 50NL where you actually have the option of going allin without the nuts on the river. either that or you start working on your resume and explaining to your friends and family how the reason you busted is you couldnt even figure out which games you should be sitting in, let alone how to beat them, and thats why you went bust.

Percula · #7 12-17-2005, 03:28 PM

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No. If you are playing for a living, this line of thought has merit, i.e. that 60BB profit is the difference betweening making the monthly bills or not.

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wha...?

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dont be confused by the authoratative tone, this makes no sense.

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It only "makes no sense" to those too young or too well off to understand what it is like to have a bills that have to be paid and only have what is in front of you to pay them.

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if you are playing for a living, having only what is left in front of you to pay the bills, sitting in a NL game with 60 bbs, you're clearly a moron and deserve to have your electricity turned off. hopefully in a moment of clarity you realize you shouldnt even be sitting in this game, go home and get out the credit card, deposit online and start playing 50NL where you actually have the option of going allin without the nuts on the river. either that or you start working on your resume and explaining to your friends and family how the reason you busted is you couldnt even figure out which games you should be sitting in, let alone how to beat them, and thats why you went bust.

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He is not sitting with 60BB, he was asking if it was reasonable to "just call it a night" with a 60BB or $600 profit. My answer was no and qualified it.

You are quoting this like it was myself asking these questions, playing this game. If you look back in the thread and stop and think for a minute and cool off, you will see that I said clearly that this hand was clearly a +EV situation and that he should have played the hand and scoped a big pot.

I only made the qulaification if he was playing for a living, noting that he is playing more or less scared money, that it might be better to just book the profit since it seemed to be a fairly sizeable profit based on the tone of the post. If you are playing for a living and need to book a profit to make the bills, sometimes it is better to not put yourself in high variance situations, like getting AI with QQ preflop. And again, I will say it, in this hand I think it is a clear situation of sitting/staying in the game and pushing with QQ is +EV.

But at the end of the day Sklansky bucks will not pay the mortgage.

Garland · #8 12-17-2005, 02:56 PM

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No. If you are playing for a living, this line of thought has merit, i.e. that 60BB profit is the difference betweening making the monthly bills or not.

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This is really bad. I know the line of thinking, but seriously, if you are playing scared money or can't cover your monthly nut, get out of the game until you have a proper bankroll.

Garland