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12-13-2005, 09:39 PM
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Re: Short HU session vs v.good player
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I think in a 2/3 structure I would never fold pf in the sb. [/ QUOTE ] I would. 
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#3
12-13-2005, 09:48 PM
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Re: Short HU session vs v.good player
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[ QUOTE ] I think in a 2/3 structure I would never fold pf in the sb. [/ QUOTE ] I would. [/ QUOTE ] well, I rarely fold in a 1/2 anyway, so I probably just suck.
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12-13-2005, 09:59 PM
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Re: Short HU session vs v.good player
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[ QUOTE ] I think in a 2/3 structure I would never fold pf in the sb. [/ QUOTE ] I would. [/ QUOTE ] HU you're folding against a random hand getting 5:1?
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#5
12-13-2005, 10:02 PM
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Re: Short HU session vs v.good player
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think in a 2/3 structure I would never fold pf in the sb. [/ QUOTE ] I would. [/ QUOTE ] HU you're folding against a random hand getting 5:1? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. Do you guys play HU ever? Baronzeus' 23o fold was very standard, especially early in the match.
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#6
12-13-2005, 10:34 PM
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Re: Short HU session vs v.good player
You're getting raised a lot. If you call/fold, that is only to encourage more of it. If you call/call most of the time, you're getting 4:6 instead. A good reason not to complete very often.
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#7
12-13-2005, 10:53 PM
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Re: Short HU session vs v.good player
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think in a 2/3 structure I would never fold pf in the sb. [/ QUOTE ] I would. [/ QUOTE ] HU you're folding against a random hand getting 5:1? [/ QUOTE ] You arn't getting 5:1. You know villain will raise X% of the time, and so if you are forced to fold the weakest of your hands, you don't get to see the flop. Therefore you are only getting 4:1, or whatever the true number is.
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#8
12-13-2005, 11:47 PM
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Re: Short HU session vs v.good player
Good, glad someone else could explain it. I was too lazy. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#9
12-13-2005, 11:19 PM
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Re: Short HU session vs v.good player
in response to the 23o dilemna:
lets call the investment you have to make to call preflop X you need 2:1 to see a flop based on hot and cold preflop equity against a random hand. because youre getting 5:1 the equity in X is 250%. however, if youre folding every time he raises which i would, your equity when he raises is -100%. even if he raised 67% of the time out of position calling would still be correct based on hot and cold equity. .67(-100%) +.33(250%) = +15.5%. meaning the equity you gain on X is 1.155X this makes it look like calling is the right play. this doesnt factor in implied odds however. even though youre in position i think your implied odds with 23o are reverse. its hard to quantify the equity in your implied odds because its theoretical. i havent read the hand history so i dont have an estimation for how often villain will raise preflop out of position after youve completed, but lets just say its 33%. he raises 33% of the time meaning that your equity in investing X is .33(-100) + .67(250) +134.5% or 1.345X. .345X is equivalent to 1/3 of a 1/3 SB, (.11SB). your reverse implied odds in this situation would have to beat greater than .11SB in order for calling to be incorrect. i would venture to guess that your reverse implied odds are more than -.11SB, if not by a wide margin. someone may be much better at quantifying the implied odds of this situation then i can however.
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