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Old 12-12-2005, 09:04 PM
sahala sahala is offline
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Default Re: Possible to lay QQ down PF??

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the range of hands of your opponents is enormous.

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Did you see the HH? It's A) raise B) re-raise C) call. What does this say about each player's hands relative to each other?

I think there's reason for caution here, plus it's early in the tournament.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:08 AM
tjh tjh is offline
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Default Re: Possible to lay QQ down PF??

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the range of hands of your opponents is enormous.

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Did you see the HH? It's A) raise B) re-raise C) call. What does this say about each player's hands relative to each other?

I think there's reason for caution here, plus it's early in the tournament.

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Take a look at your pokertracker DB, level one all-ins are surprisingly weak. They are a bit foolish early on. No time invested. I think your hourly rate will benefit by pushing here.

I discuss some all-in data from Pokertracker level one 20's HERE
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: Possible to lay QQ down PF??

Without reading the post, yes it is possible to lay down
QQ preflop in a SNG.

Edit: though I can't recall doing so although I'm sure I have.
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: Possible to lay QQ down PF??

Yeah you can, I just don't see why on earth you would want to in this particular situation.
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: Possible to lay QQ down PF??

Very interesting post, tjh! I saw it before, but didn't look at it. You sure got a lot of stupid responses to that thread. I'm not sure why. Maybe for challenging conventional wisdom.

I think it's definately worth considering plays like pushing with TT. Even if one decides against it, the thought process involved in analyzing out what the best play is is useful in and of itself.

It seems to me TT will be mildly +EV. Personally I think at the lower levels it's not worth taking a big risk to obtain a small edge. Your biggest edge comes as the tournament progresses and where your end-game is far superior to theirs. So I see no need to gamble early on. If you have a clear edge, that's different. With a large sample I think you'd fine TT would be a small edge. I wouldn't push with JJ either, but maybe that's too tight.
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