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TT small card flop
mp3 is a big fish.
UTG+1 is 29/5 over 71 hands. somewhat passive postflop, pretty sure he wont bet overs in spots like these, but will peel with them. Party Poker 2.00/4.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls. Flop: (9.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls. Turn: (9.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls. River: (12.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero ? Final Pot: 12.25 BB. river value bet here? and what about the preflop? I didnt 3 bet cause i didnt wanna get into a 3 handed pot with TT, so i cc trying to get everyone else to come along so i could play it for set value? |
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Re: TT small card flop
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mp3 is a big fish. UTG+1 is 29/5 over 71 hands. somewhat passive postflop, pretty sure he wont bet overs in spots like these, but will peel with them. Party Poker 2.00/4.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls. [/ QUOTE ] 3-bet this preflop. You have a huge equity edge here, and this hand will definitely win more than a quarter of the time against 3 opponents. You also have ultimate position, being the button. So if a scary flop comes, you are able to see what everyone else does before you act. Odds are, if you 3 bet preflop, everyone will check to you on the flop anyways. [ QUOTE ] Flop: (9.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls. [/ QUOTE ] I think I'd cap here based on the way it was played preflop. If you 3 bet preflop and UTG+1 capped it, then I might play it this way, but this is a relatively safe flop for you. Trap the dead money in the hand for more bets. [ QUOTE ] Turn: (9.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 playe rs)</font> UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls. [/ QUOTE ] I like the bet here. No one seems to have a 7 by showing any aggression. [ QUOTE ] River: (12.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero ? Final Pot: 12.25 BB. river value bet here? and what about the preflop? I didnt 3 bet cause i didnt wanna get into a 3 handed pot with TT, so i cc trying to get everyone else to come along so i could play it for set value? [/ QUOTE ] I think you should value bet this. It is probable that no one has a 7 since it was checked to you twice. A value bet would be good here. |
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Re: TT small card flop
It looks to me like UTG+1 has overpair that is scared of straight. You didn't re-raise preflop so he can think you don't have an overpair and is scared you raised a straight draw.
He could also have AK, AQ but you said he didn't raise overs. The way you played it I would have checked that river through. |
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Re: TT small card flop
Preflop, I'd definitely 3 bet.
Flop and turn okay. I'd bet the river. |
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Re: TT small card flop
I'm 3 betting preflop. The flop might play differently then--but if he still 3 bet it after my preflop action, I'd call. I would bet the turn and river after he checks both times.
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Re: TT small card flop
i'd typically raise here preflop to help define your hand as early as possible and make sure it doesn't go four or five handed with the blinds trailing in cheaply. i still raise for value with 10's when it appears its going to be 3 handed, and take the set value approach that you did more when it's going to be at least 4 or 5 and isolation is not possible.
anyway, it would really be about a coinflip for me on river... given the check call on turn (?????) after making it 3, i would feel a bet/call line would be in order if you think mp3 is calling and a cheap showdown if not... |
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Re: TT small card flop
UTG+1 could have a hand like AK or AQ suited to hearts, which both fall into his apparent raising range and explain the flop 3-bet, turn check line.
Whatever he's got, it looks like MP3 will call a river bet with a worse hand, so I think you have value in a bet there. If your read were based on a few hundred, rather than 71 hands, I could see taking the preflop/flop line you did against this player. But it's very easy to get a false read on something like PFR% over such a small sample, so I also favor a preflop 3-bet. |
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