KJo 4-handed

[callydrias]

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How is a river raise an option?

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I am presented with 3 buttons, labeled as stated above.

[kapw7]

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I am presented with 3 buttons, labeled as stated above.

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No need to use sarcasm on ppl who do you a favour to respond to your post.
My question was what is the logic behind raising. Is it for making a better hand to fold or a worse hand to call or what?

[Peter Harris]

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No need to use sarcasm on ppl who do you a favour to respond to your post.

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To be fair pistol himself wasn't advocating a river raise, so the rhetorical challenge seems fair game to me - there is no logic behind raising on this board, but people may "forget" it's an option.

I think a river fold is okay, but it's a damn close call between folding and calling (EDIT: if you had a laggy read, i missed that button is unknown - in that case a fold is okay).

A raise on this river is unlikely to fold any better hand out because the river was a blanky blank which completed squat.

Pistol dude we know you called because the final pot is 2BB bigger than the river pot. Edit next time! keep us under suspense.

What happens if the river is a T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?

With only 3 orbits and no read do you still check-call or bet?

Just trying to apply this example to a similar hand I played.

[JimNashe]

I'd raise/fold the river if another club fell and call after a T of non-clubs.

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if you call the turn, you're calling the river.

[Redd]

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if you call the turn, you're calling the river.

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This isn't necessarily true here. We can call entirely on our flush outs here even if we have a zero % chance of being ahead on the turn.

[danzasmack]

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if you call the turn, you're calling the river.

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No we missed our flush.

If K was top pair, call. But i think this is a simple fold.

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What happens if the river is a T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?

With only 3 orbits and no read do you still check-call or bet?


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Villain more likely has aces or kings up, so we are not folding this kind of river. So it's check/call or bet/call. I think bet/call probably sucks because we will only get raised by a hand that beats us (i.e. the flush), and it would be a crying call.


edit: I bet/call our J-high flush

[callydrias]

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[Pistol dude we know you called because the final pot is 2BB bigger than the river pot. Edit next time! keep us under suspense.

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Busted! [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

I called because I had seen some laggy play on the table recently and was used to people showing down KT and JJ-type hands here. I misapplied that to the new guy here and got shown the A.