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KJo 4-handed
I've only been at the table for 3 orbits or so. Button just sat down, so no reads on him. BB has been extremely laggy when challenged, otherwise fairly passive and playing junk hands.
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls. Flop: (6.33 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls. Turn: (4.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls. River: (8.66 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero ???. Final Pot: 10.66 BB I hate this spot on the river. Call, raise, or fold? |
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Re: KJo 4-handed
How is a river raise an option?
Other than that you cannot fold this against an unknown. |
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Re: KJo 4-handed
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How is a river raise an option? [/ QUOTE ] I am presented with 3 buttons, labeled as stated above. |
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Re: KJo 4-handed
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Other than that you cannot fold this against an unknown. [/ QUOTE ] On this board given the way we played it I think a river fold is fine but reasonably close given the size of the pot and the unknown villian. A turn raise is just really bad news for our hand UI IMO. |
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Re: KJo 4-handed
Standard fold. Unless you have a read that he could semi-bluff with the T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], you are behind every single hand that plays like this. A8+,JT,KQ+, the only hand you could possible be beating is QxJ[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], which is taken in your hand.
There is no way you are winning this 1/10 unless you have a read. |
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Re: KJo 4-handed
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I am presented with 3 buttons, labeled as stated above. [/ QUOTE ] No need to use sarcasm on ppl who do you a favour to respond to your post. My question was what is the logic behind raising. Is it for making a better hand to fold or a worse hand to call or what? |
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Re: KJo 4-handed
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No need to use sarcasm on ppl who do you a favour to respond to your post. [/ QUOTE ] To be fair pistol himself wasn't advocating a river raise, so the rhetorical challenge seems fair game to me - there is no logic behind raising on this board, but people may "forget" it's an option. I think a river fold is okay, but it's a damn close call between folding and calling (EDIT: if you had a laggy read, i missed that button is unknown - in that case a fold is okay). A raise on this river is unlikely to fold any better hand out because the river was a blanky blank which completed squat. Pistol dude we know you called because the final pot is 2BB bigger than the river pot. Edit next time! keep us under suspense. |
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Re: KJo 4-handed
What happens if the river is a T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?
With only 3 orbits and no read do you still check-call or bet? Just trying to apply this example to a similar hand I played. |
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Re: KJo 4-handed
I'd raise/fold the river if another club fell and call after a T of non-clubs.
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Re: KJo 4-handed
if you call the turn, you're calling the river.
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