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Old 12-07-2005, 08:48 PM
callydrias callydrias is offline
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Default Re: Two KJs blind hands that suck.

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I don't understad why everyone wants me to lead into the PFR when I am likely behind and have 5 outs.

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I don't understand why you spent the first paragraph of your OP discussing the LAGginess of the table but now give the preflop raisers so much credit for their hands.

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Heres what will happen when I bet: BB will raise. Mabye button will 3 bet....I will call 1 or 1.5 BB with my 5 outs. Turn Blanks. Check. Bet. Call. Check. Ick. 3BB chasing 5 outs.

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I think this is a bit pessimistic, but maybe you're right. I'm only considering the table read you gave. However, if you know the cards and action of future streets, you're probably better off open folding [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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If I check: I draw the turn for 1/2 BB to hit my 5 outs against 5 opponents. I might get to check raise or I might hit a J and have someone with a worse J playing back at me. I might hit a K and get to check raise against AK.

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True, you could check raise if someone catches smaller than you, but it's more likely that they'll catch bigger than you. Someone with AK has more outs to an A or T than a K. Someone may be playing a smaller J, but this is a big pot and you want it now! Don't give anyone a reasonable chance to draw out on you when you're ahead. And I think you're ahead enough to be proactive about dragging this pot.

I think leading and check/calling are close, but I think leading has more value. This is just my opinion.
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