JACK. GIVE ME A JACK! DO IT ONE TIME!

[swolfe]

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how is this a value bet, 3 flush, 3 straight, high cards, and an ace. what worse hand is calling a river bet?

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KQ, QJ...any Q really. or T if he called with that. he's not checking to you on the river with a hand that beats you very often after you check behind on the turn.

Not one here commented on MP1's stack size, which was the deciding factor in my smallish preflop raise. I wanted to marry him to a top pair hand.

I am calling a push on the turn (look at how small it would be), but when he checks I am thinking he has a pair of tens or queens that thinks it must be beat. I checked to induce a river bluff. When it failed to materialize I put him all in, and he folded.

[swolfe]

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Not one here commented on MP1's stack size, which was the deciding factor in my smallish preflop raise. I wanted to marry him to a top pair hand.

I am calling a push on the turn (look at how small it would be), but when he checks I am thinking he has a pair of tens or queens that thinks it must be beat. I checked to induce a river bluff. When it failed to materialize I put him all in, and he folded.

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if you had reraised even a dollar more preflop, then MP's stack would have been even more committed.

i'd have bet half his remaining stack on the turn

[the machine]

value betting is done with a hand where you know a player will call and your hand will stand up. as played this is a simple river check. well i guess there is the possibility of a value bet on the river.... and in the long run the value is negative

[swolfe]

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value betting is done with a hand where you know a player will call and your hand will stand up. as played this is a simple river check. well i guess there is the possibility of a value bet on the river.... and in the long run the value is negative

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what hand that beats us checks the river after we check the turn? Villain would be dumb to go for a check raise after the weakness we showed.