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Old 12-02-2005, 04:37 PM
citanul citanul is offline
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sabra,

you have 0 of 1 personal insults remaining.

OP,

most of the people on this forum play poker to make money. not to play poker.

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Old 12-02-2005, 04:43 PM
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sabra,

you have 0 of 1 personal insults remaining.

OP,

most of the people on this forum play poker to make money. not to play poker.

c

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But don't you feel you can make more money when you have enough chips to outmaneuver the worse players? With such shallow stacks, your cards become too much of a factor.
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Old 12-02-2005, 04:46 PM
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With such shallow stacks, your cards become too much of a factor.

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Infact not.
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Old 12-02-2005, 04:47 PM
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I can't be bothered to reply about M anymore. If people want to keep using it, let them.
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Old 12-02-2005, 04:48 PM
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I can't be bothered to reply about M anymore. If people want to keep using it, let them.

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You don't use M at all? Why not?
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Old 12-02-2005, 04:50 PM
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I can't be bothered to reply about M anymore. If people want to keep using it, let them.

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You don't use M at all? Why not?

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'Cos it's absolutely meaningless in SNG poker compared to ICM.
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Old 12-02-2005, 04:48 PM
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It's not a matter of feelings, it's a matter of math. $/hr is higher in Party tournies for most posters here, so Party tournies dominate the discussion. ROI is higher in the situation you describe, but Stars tournies take longer, so $/hr is lower. Some people play Stars because they like it more. So... just play Stars then. And leave us wallowing in our poker subclass with our massive hourly rates, ok? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 12-02-2005, 04:59 PM
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It's not a matter of feelings, it's a matter of math. $/hr is higher in Party tournies for most posters here, so Party tournies dominate the discussion. ROI is higher in the situation you describe, but Stars tournies take longer, so $/hr is lower. Some people play Stars because they like it more. So... just play Stars then. And leave us wallowing in our poker subclass with our massive hourly rates, ok? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I hear what you're saying. I suppose playing style comes into effect here as well. I like to have as much time as possible with deeper stacks because that's where I have the biggest edge, so my hourly rate is higher in those tourneys.
But if you're better at short stack play then I suppose the party SNG's are a better fit. I still think they do it just to scam us though.
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Old 12-02-2005, 05:03 PM
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[quote}I like to have as much time as possible with deeper stacks because that's where I have the biggest edge, so my hourly rate is higher in those tourneys.

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I very, very much doubt that this is true.

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Old 12-03-2005, 03:44 AM
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I like to have as much time as possible with deeper stacks because that's where I have the biggest edge, so my hourly rate is higher in those tourneys.

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I very, very much doubt that this is true.


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Although you have every reason to doubt, my personal experience supports that it is possible to lose at Party and win at the deepstack SNG's.

I think the reason we win at party is partly because the fish do not see that the blinds are huge and the stacks are small and we start out the tournament almost desperately short stacked.

All the literature that a player can find, except for here, Favors a tighter playing style. A playing style that you can not afford at party.

When I started keeping records I found that I was making my online money (not much of it) at UB SNG's. So I played more of them and had a positive ROI.

I tried party but I could not win.

I was more or less able to figure out how to beat UB on my own, or by reading standard poker books. It was not until I found this forum that I was able to beat the Party format.

A party SNG is like a UB SNG on speed, and coke. It goes 4 times as fast. If the original poster reads the FAQ and the aleo-magus guide and posts some hands he will come to favor the party format. Until then he will be frustrated.

I hated them till I learned to beat them.
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