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Old 12-02-2005, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: The Crusades

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Exodus 35:2
"On six days work may be done, but the seventh day shall be sacred to you as the sabbath of complete rest to the LORD. Anyone who does work on that day shall be put to death."

Case closed, Christians are violent, homicidal maniacs who must be sent back from whence they came, lest we allow their inherently violent nature stop us from kicking up the GDP a few ticks on Sunday.

As Ibn Warraq says, there are non-violent Christians, but Christianity is not non-violent.

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And with that ridiculousness (and the ridiculousness that it was in response to), I'm really off to bed.

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Uh, that would be the Jews, not Christians. GG, thanks for playing, pick up a parting gift on your way out.

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Okay, fine, whatever -- why doesn't M advocate a large-scale war against Jews, then, for their inherently violent nature? Whether or not this is an imperative for Jews or Christians is rather irrelevant to my point.

I'll take an explanation from M (or a like-minded individual) as a parting gift.

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Does Judaism have a concept truly parallel to the Islamic concept of jihad or holy war? Does the Torah or Old Testament advise Jews to take not friends from amongst the infidels, but rather to make war against them, until the infidels are subjugated, and they pay the special poll tax in subservience? Did Moses personally lead many armies of conquest, engaging in plunder, slaughter, and the taking of slaves as booty, as did Mohammed? Did the followers of Judaism, through the centuries, take over large swathes of land by force, killing, converting or subjugating the inhabitants as they spread? Does the Torah or Old Testament advise them to do so?
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