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#1
12-02-2005, 12:52 PM
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Re: QJs - a high variance play. Comments please.
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I don't 3 bet the flop. Its not like I can buy any outs. I think this is a situation to call the raise and hope the turn comes with something to get sexy with. [/ QUOTE ] The 3-bet is for value. We have an equity edge against 3+ opponents given the flush and (nut) gutshot draws. 
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#2
12-02-2005, 01:01 PM
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Re: QJs - a high variance play. Comments please.
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[ QUOTE ] I don't 3 bet the flop. Its not like I can buy any outs. I think this is a situation to call the raise and hope the turn comes with something to get sexy with. [/ QUOTE ] The 3-bet is for value. We have an equity edge against 3+ opponents given the flush and (nut) gutshot draws. [/ QUOTE ] We do have an equity edge but we also stand to knock people out on the 3 bet as well and thus lose bets on the turn. I think the 3bet is close, but I only like if everyone is going to stay along for the ride. I think you fold people out facing 2 cold too often here, in which case we lose equity.
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#3
12-02-2005, 01:10 PM
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Re: QJs - a high variance play. Comments please.
Both players to act after the 3-bet have already invest one bet. I think this psychologically ties a lot players to seeing the turn. Reads would definitely make a difference here for me. If they were tight-asses I would just call and tie them to the turn, if they were loose fish, I have no hesitation in 3-betting it.
Even so, we only need the pot to be 3-way to have equity on our bets.
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#4
12-02-2005, 01:21 PM
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Re: QJs - a high variance play. Comments please.
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Even so, we only need the pot to be 3-way to have equity on our bets. [/ QUOTE ] This is the crux of the matter. This pot is going to be at least three way to the turn, so the hero is getting value on his flop bets. I think he should go ahead and cap it if the opportunity arises. I don't think he has any fold equity on the turn, so on the turn, I think he can check. Although this makes it transparent that he has a draw, it doesn't tell the extent of his draw, and if he makes a straight, instead of the flush, I think he can still checkraise the river.
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12-02-2005, 01:11 PM
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Re: QJs - a high variance play. Comments please.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't 3 bet the flop. Its not like I can buy any outs. I think this is a situation to call the raise and hope the turn comes with something to get sexy with. [/ QUOTE ] The 3-bet is for value. We have an equity edge against 3+ opponents given the flush and (nut) gutshot draws. [/ QUOTE ] We do have an equity edge but we also stand to knock people out on the 3 bet as well and thus lose bets on the turn. I think the 3bet is close, but I only like if everyone is going to stay along for the ride. I think you fold people out facing 2 cold too often here, in which case we lose equity. [/ QUOTE ] Hero's equity is around 45% five people have put money in on the flop. One of those players raised and one cold called two. I don't think the flop 3-bet is anywhere near close even if a player or two folds.
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