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Re: Re-learning how to laydown top pair... standard?
So even if we are willing to agree that I'm very likely behind, it seems you guys like a turn call due to my outs.
So what about the river? Am I really ever good against an unknown here? I mean, he's showing a ton of strength this hand and I highly doubt my AQ is good enough often enough to call a river bet... thoughts? |
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Re: Re-learning how to laydown top pair... standard?
if youre going to call the turn i think it requires that you always call the river in order to show profit. your outs are tainted so alot of your turn equity comes from seeing a showdown. in essence you arent paying 9:1 to see a showdown, its more like 9:1.3.
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Re: Re-learning how to laydown top pair... standard?
Meh, if feels so wrong though [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
Fine. |
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Re: Re-learning how to laydown top pair... standard?
i agree. i like a fold but i dont know how the 10/20 on party plays. 2p2ers give alot less credit to the 10/20 players then i do so my judgment could easily be off on his hand range.
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Re: Re-learning how to laydown top pair... standard?
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if youre going to call the turn i think it requires that you always call the river in order to show profit. your outs are tainted so alot of your turn equity comes from seeing a showdown. in essence you arent paying 9:1 to see a showdown, its more like 9:1.3. [/ QUOTE ] Actually, I don't agree. I think the outs make it worth seeing the river. But if villain is still betting that river, I feel pretty comfortable folding. |
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Re: Re-learning how to laydown top pair... standard?
I call down UI.
I like saving the TP folds for guys who check raise the field in spots like this. In addtion to what has already been said, he could do this with alot of weaker Aces, AJ, AT, A9, A8 on down, not to mention air. blake |
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Re: Re-learning how to laydown top pair... standard?
im surprised everyone likes this flop 3bet. b/c i dont.
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Re: Re-learning how to laydown top pair... standard?
Without a read, I really doubt this guy is c/r the flop and the turn against the pf raiser, and leading the river, with a weak A, not to mention air.
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Re: Re-learning how to laydown top pair... standard?
yah i didnt comment on this but i always smoothcall the flop raise and raise the turn. its much safer to fold to a turn 3bet that way and you usually extract more value.
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Re: Re-learning how to laydown top pair... standard?
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im surprised everyone likes this flop 3bet. b/c i dont. [/ QUOTE ] Neither do I, but that really wasn't the point of the post [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Let's assume I play it correctly and raise the turn. Can I now fold to the 3-bet? |
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