88 and AQ, tough spots

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heh sry no strong reads, wasn't paying close enough attention.
actually im not sure the turn put two to a suit up. i'm still having trouble importing ub hand histories so i didn't recheck. I'll take your word for it though that the board was rainbow. Against a sane opponent, I think I should be folding the turn, I can't think of a single hand I'm beating after the turn 3-bet except maybe A7.


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Yeah, it was a rainbow turn card:

Ultimate Bet 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.


Also, I was opening from the CO (effectively) which widens the range a bit. I think you're right that the only hand a reasonable opponent has which you're beating here is A7. But if you didn't know that I was reasonable, I think calling down is OK. A lot of people overplay overcards or smaller pocket pairs here.

But as I think about the hand more, you should probably be raising on the flop (and maybe even 3-betting preflop). If I do have unimproved overs on the flop you want me folding on the turn.


From my point of view, I didn't have much of a read on you either -- and I thought I was paying attention! (I guess the tight players can be the hardest to pick up reads on.) I do remember strongly considering the idea of smooth-calling the flop and raising the river -- I'm not sure if that would've been better or not...