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Old 11-29-2005, 08:27 PM
KennyBanya KennyBanya is offline
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Default Re: Why aren\'t you better?

As for Bones 2nd question, I am still pounding away at the 22s because after 1200 I am only beating them at 12% ROI. At this rate I am barely making more per hour at the 22s then I did at the 11s. I feel like I need to improve.

As for why I am not better, there are numerous answers, I m losing chips overall with small to medium pairs, and I am working on adjusting how I play them. I watch tv, and surf the web while I 4 table. I lose money from the SB and BB and am struggling with how to play them better. I really need to study ICM and play around and study SNGPT to really hone in my pushbotting.

As for Raptor saying anyone can play perfect SNG poker, it is impossible for a human being to pull off. This includes Phil Ivey or whatever "poker god" you want to select. I guarantee even Raptor will either misclick, time out or make a poor decision in the next 200 SNG's he plays, let alone playing them perfect over the next billion he plays.

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KennyBanya
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:56 PM
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As for Raptor saying anyone can play perfect SNG poker, it is impossible for a human being to pull off. This includes Phil Ivey or whatever "poker god" you want to select. I guarantee even Raptor will either misclick, time out or make a poor decision in the next 200 SNG's he plays, let alone playing them perfect over the next billion he plays.

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its not impossible to make ONLY +EV pushes on the bubble. over my next 200, i guarantee i wont make any -ev pushes. i didnt mean it in a way that oh you have to never make a mistake never lose a pot kinda way, never run KK into AA, never lose ah nad, and win every tournament. yer right. thats impossible. its however, not impossible, to think for 2 seconds before clicking so you dont misclick, and to understand bubble concepts so well that you dont make mistakes. holla
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:03 PM
KennyBanya KennyBanya is offline
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its not impossible to make ONLY +EV pushes on the bubble. over my next 200, i guarantee i wont make any -ev pushes. i didnt mean it in a way that oh you have to never make a mistake never lose a pot kinda way, never run KK into AA, never lose ah nad, and win every tournament. yer right. thats impossible. its however, not impossible, to think for 2 seconds before clicking so you dont misclick, and to understand bubble concepts so well that you dont make mistakes. holla

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I dont mean it a never losing a pot kind of way either. I consider pushing KK with 5 BBs left from the button playing perfect poker even if you run into AA.

Wouldnt you have to have almost exact calling ranges for multiple opponents to never make a -ev push? To me, that seems impossible in a game of incomplete information.

Even during bubble play, you have 1 to 3 opponents to figure out. We often are facing opponents for the first time in a given tournament as well.

"Perfect" is such an absolute term. Absolutes are rare in making poker decisions, even for SNG bubble play.

I have no doubt you play well and far better than I do. I have even less doubt you dont play perfect.

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KennyBanya
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:14 AM
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As for Raptor saying anyone can play perfect SNG poker, it is impossible for a human being to pull off. This includes Phil Ivey or whatever "poker god" you want to select. I guarantee even Raptor will either misclick, time out or make a poor decision in the next 200 SNG's he plays, let alone playing them perfect over the next billion he plays.

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its not impossible to make ONLY +EV pushes on the bubble. over my next 200, i guarantee i wont make any -ev pushes. i didnt mean it in a way that oh you have to never make a mistake never lose a pot kinda way, never run KK into AA, never lose ah nad, and win every tournament. yer right. thats impossible. its however, not impossible, to think for 2 seconds before clicking so you dont misclick, and to understand bubble concepts so well that you dont make mistakes. holla

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Raptor, you say you can *always* say what are +EV pushes and what are not. Even when it's close, I presume. How did you get to this point? Did you use SNG PT until you knew everything, or did you make the calculations yourself, or... And how long did it take you?

Also, do you ever not push a +EV push when you expect there will be +EV'er situations later? Some people are talking about it, but if you don't, I'd feel safe not doing it either. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] EDIT: I just read that you do just that sometimes. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

BTW, I just called party to validate my new account. I hate talking on the phone, and English is not my native language... horrible. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:31 AM
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As for Raptor saying anyone can play perfect SNG poker, it is impossible for a human being to pull off. This includes Phil Ivey or whatever "poker god" you want to select. I guarantee even Raptor will either misclick, time out or make a poor decision in the next 200 SNG's he plays, let alone playing them perfect over the next billion he plays.

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its not impossible to make ONLY +EV pushes on the bubble. over my next 200, i guarantee i wont make any -ev pushes. i didnt mean it in a way that oh you have to never make a mistake never lose a pot kinda way, never run KK into AA, never lose ah nad, and win every tournament. yer right. thats impossible. its however, not impossible, to think for 2 seconds before clicking so you dont misclick, and to understand bubble concepts so well that you dont make mistakes. holla

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Raptor, you say you can *always* say what are +EV pushes and what are not. Even when it's close, I presume. How did you get to this point? Did you use SNG PT until you knew everything, or did you make the calculations yourself, or... And how long did it take you?

Also, do you ever not push a +EV push when you expect there will be +EV'er situations later? Some people are talking about it, but if you don't, I'd feel safe not doing it either. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] EDIT: I just read that you do just that sometimes. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

BTW, I just called party to validate my new account. I hate talking on the phone, and English is not my native language... horrible. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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My sarcasm meter isn't very good. Are you making fun of Raptor?
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:56 AM
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Nope sorry. It's early in the morning here. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] I'd just like to know how he got to where he is now...
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:16 AM
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trial and error. play enough you know what they call with. who pushes what. who calls with what. situations. when you can push 23o as a pure steal. when you need to call with AJs on the bubble. when you need to fold it. mess with sngpt to confirm what you have learned. i havent used that proggy in a while. i will occasionally run 15 tournaments through it to make sure im still up to par. i will pass on some +ev situatoins. in fact ill pass on a lot of them if i think i can find a more +ev spot later. thats all. im tired. jokes on me if everyones being sarcastic, im not. holla
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