Poker by the book....very passive preflop, why?

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I don't remember Sklansky limping at all. but I did miss a few hands. I did notice Phil completing/limping like twice in a row, which was really weird. I don't think we can really analyze the context of these hands though, because they only showed like ten in the entire episode.

[cwsiggy]

I thought it was stupid that Sklansky made some laydowns simply so he could get more TV time and in theory sell more books. He even said as much. So retarded.

WPT "Poker by the book"
5 handed

TJ Cloutier and David Sklansky both have around 250k

Antes 1k
SB 3k
BB 6k

DS UTG A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
DS Raises to 20k

Folds to TJ Cloutier in BB w A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
TJ Raises to 80k

DS folds ?!?

I guess the cameras can make anyone look dumb. TJ has a tight reputation, but hell it was 5-handed. Can you really put him on an AA or KK here? Anything else we are at worst 45/55 and possibly a lot better.

I guess maybe Sklansky got some more TV time out of it, but no way would it encourage me to buy a book. I'd be almost certain it is -EV to fold. Folding is - well I hate to say it - but weak-tight.

[Daliman]

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WPT "Poker by the book"
5 handed

TJ Cloutier and David Sklansky both have around 250k

Antes 1k
SB 3k
BB 6k

DS UTG A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
DS Raises to 20k

Folds to TJ Cloutier in BB w A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
TJ Raises to 80k

DS folds ?!?

I guess the cameras can make anyone look dumb. TJ has a tight reputation, but hell it was 5-handed. Can you really put him on an AA or KK here? Anything else we are at worst 45/55 and possibly a lot better.

I guess maybe Sklansky got some more TV time out of it, but no way would it encourage me to buy a book. I'd be almost certain it is -EV to fold. Folding is - well I hate to say it - but weak-tight.

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This whole thing was gone over ad nauseum when it aired. Search it, you'll find compelling arguments.

Whoops,

I didn't realize it was a repeat [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I did a search and didn't find anything - reading all the "Sklansky" posts was entertaining though. Does anybody have an aproximate original air date?

[Jordan Olsommer]

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Whoops,

I didn't realize it was a repeat [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I did a search and didn't find anything - reading all the "Sklansky" posts was entertaining though. Does anybody have an aproximate original air date?

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February 23rd.

This link looks like it has the episodes in chronological order. It was last year during Season 3.

Link

[soko]

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I thought it was stupid that Sklansky made some laydowns simply so he could get more TV time and in theory sell more books. He even said as much. So retarded.

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In terms of expected value is this retarded?

Passing up a small +EV to take advantage of a greater +EV later in the hand (or in life).