My new role at Royal Vegas Poker

[Lou Krieger]

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The requirement that, in order to cash anything out, you send them scans of your credit card and driver's license is, by itself, a little frightening. The fact that the Kahnewake Band (who owns and operates Royal Vegas and the related 6 other online casinos and poker sites) has long-standing ties to organized crime makes it an easy "stay away" for me.

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When I joined Royal Vegas Poker as a host about four weeks ago, I noticed that their cashin and cashout requirements were restrictive. Moroever, I received email from players who felt the same. I brought this up to the attention of Royal Vegas Poker's management and the practices were immediately relaxed. This was, in fact, accomplished within two days.

Personally, I'm not worried about giving out a scan of my credit card. My credit card is out of my sight anytime I eat in a restaurnat and use it to pay my bill. If someone in the back room wants to run two copies of my card, he's gonna do it, and when I get that fraudulent bill all I'll do is contact the credit card company and have the charge reversed.

It's happened before, and I suppose it will happen again. So I'm not distrustful of using my credit card with reputable online merchants, and, IMHO, the Prima Poker Netowrk in general and Royal Vegas Poker specifically are certainly trustworthy. In fact, if you check out Casinomeister.com, the online casino watchdog, you'll come up emptyhanded if you're after registered complaints about Royal Vegas Poker.

While it's true that Royal Vegas Poker's game servers are located on the Kanawake Territories, the territorial residents do not "own" Royal Vegas Poker any more than they "own" any of the other online poker sites who house their servers in that location.

All the sites are doing is leasing space and housing their equipment there. That's not ownership, and if an issue developed regarding server location, they could be relocated to another site without skipping a beat.

All the site is doing is renting space there, not unlike renting a parking space in a garage space in a downtown office building. No more, no less.
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Lou Krieger
Raise your game with Lou Krieger, author of "Poker For Dummies" at Royal Vegas Poker.
http://www.royalvegaspoker/lou

[FortuneLounge]

Clovenhoof:

Lou is quite correct in his statement that we are not owned by anyone in Kahnawakee and he has given you the correct state of affairs in terms of our relationship with the territory.

The requirement for copies of identification, etc is a long-standing practice amongst most all on-line casino operators. As much as I can understand your concern about identity theft, you need to understand that we are severely at risk due to identity theft and credit card theft. In this regard, we have exposed several syndicates and individuals who have tried to purchase on our casinos with stolen credit cards. All credit card and personal information are handled in the utmost secure environment and we follow the same practices as any reliable bank.

Should you read our Terms and Conditions you will notice that we clearly state that we will require verification documents under certain conditions. Even though we have relaxed our requirement in this regard considerably (mostly due to the feedback and efforts from Lou and the valued posters on this forum) we will continue to request such information where we suspect actions of fraud.

VP Operations
Fortune Lounge

[Inthacup]

The requirement for copies of identification, etc is a long-standing practice amongst most all on-line casino operators.


Therein lies the problem. You're in online casino mentality. Pokerrooms and casinos simply should not be handled in the same manner. The whole philosophy between site/player is different. At casinos it's basically us(players) vs. them(site). In a poker room, the players are playing against each other. The site is merely the host. 99% of all players hold little or no animosity towards the online pokerroom. The fact that you can't differentiate between the two shows how far you have to go before you become a successful pokerroom. Look at the most successful pokerrooms right now. NONE of them require these documents and none of them apply casino rules to the pokeroom.


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