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Which comes first, the raise to get more $$ in on the turn(and protect), or raising the flop to protect my hand.
Online 25/50. MP1 Limps. MP2 Limps. Hijack checks his posted blinds. I check in my posted blind with 93hh. Button calls and the blinds call. 7 to the flop. Flop is A93 no suits. Checked to MP2 who bets, Hijack calls and action on me. The pot is getting big, so I raised to protect my hand. My thought after the hand was, what am I protecting it against? Any ace cold calls 2, and then calls when I bet the turn, and if I get checkraised or raised on the turn, I really dont feel great about it. So the only thing a flop raise protects me from is a 9/3 or that may hit his kicker on the turn. I think in this case on a drawless board, I sometimes need to represent more strength than I have to clear the field on the turn. Am I complicating things? Is this an autoraise on the flop, with no consideration given to the turn? With top pair or on a more connected board I raise immediately for sure. Thanks, Jason |
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I don't think i'd check the flop, i'd lead. Not only are you then assured to avoid a check through disaster, but you get a better idea of who likes their hand and can develop a flop/turn plan to better protect/maximize based on the turn card.
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I'd raise the flop if it were me, and then when the hand was over wish I has raised a non A turn instead.
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I posted in the cutoff. The action was bet--call---to me.
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I dont think you EVER want to consider just calling here. Raise.
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The thing you should remember is to raise to get more money in the pot with the best hand.
Raise the flop. |
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Sorry to much Turkey...
I'd definately raise the flop. You're hand wont look like much of anything, since you didn't raise preflop, and you might get AT to give you a little more action then they should. With this many players and no PF raise, I could see this flop bet being more exploratory then anything else, as a big Ace is unlikely, and you may get checked to on the turn even if you just call. lf |
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The thing you should remember is to raise to get more money in the pot with the best hand. Raise the flop. [/ QUOTE ] what he said. I always think my rag twopair will get counterfeited somehow, so I raise the flop like the lag I'm not [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] and hope to get action from A-whatever. |
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I don't think i'd check the flop, i'd lead. Not only are you then assured to avoid a check through disaster, but you get a better idea of who likes their hand and can develop a flop/turn plan to better protect/maximize based on the turn card. [/ QUOTE ] I'd add lead and 3 bet. As you said, any A is calling down and no one is putting you on 93. Keep pushing until pushed back, then call. |
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Thanks all. FWIW. I raised the flop and both called. The turn was the 2 of hearts giving me a heart draw, and the river was a 3, for a full house and a good start to the session.
I almost always raise the flop here, and if I was in the big blind, I usually lead/3bet here too. Just wondering if raising the turn was decent too, I guess not. I cant even say what goes through my mind(@#$!!!) when the first guy is betting Q4s into the field on the flop and decides to check the turn, so I dont get a turn raise in. |
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