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Old 11-24-2005, 07:43 AM
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Default Re: continually running on empty

standard game, ended up on the bubble again but i was more aggro this game and was up for a while:

Seat 5: dollar45 ( $125 )
Seat 10: heret1k ( $730 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $1110 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $990 )
Seat 3: ifidawon ( $2255 )
Seat 1: rarebel ( $1955 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $835 )
Trny:17675269 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 3s 3h ]
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 folds.
heret1k raises [100].
rarebel folds.
ifidawon calls [100].
GobBluth72 folds.
dollar45 is all-In [95]
heret1k calls [25].
ifidawon calls [25].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, Js, 6c ]
heret1k checks.
ifidawon checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
heret1k bets [30].
ifidawon calls [30].
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]
heret1k checks.
ifidawon checks.

Seat 5: dollar45 ( $375 )
Seat 10: heret1k ( $575 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $700 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $1770 )
Seat 3: ifidawon ( $1850 )
Seat 1: rarebel ( $1895 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $835 )
Trny:17675269 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ Td Tc ]
heret1k is all-In [575]
rarebel folds.
ifidawon folds.
GobBluth72 folds.
dollar45 folds.
lostin111 calls [550].
bloomers43 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, Qh, 5d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
heret1k shows [ Td, Tc ] two pairs, tens and sevens.
lostin111 shows [ Kd, As ] two pairs, sevens and fives.

NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17675269 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Thursday, November 24, 00:47:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 66987 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 10: heret1k ( $900 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $925 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $735 )
Seat 3: ifidawon ( $575 )
Seat 1: rarebel ( $2870 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $1995 )
Trny:17675269 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 6s 6c ]
GobBluth72 folds.
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 folds.
heret1k is all-In [900]
rarebel folds.
ifidawon is all-In [475]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 2h, 4d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Th ]
ifidawon shows [ Ks, Js ] a pair of tens.
heret1k shows [ 6s, 6c ] two pairs, tens and sixes.

Seat 10: heret1k ( $1125 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $425 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $885 )
Seat 1: rarebel ( $1575 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $3990 )
Trny:17675269 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ Kc 5c ]
rarebel calls [150].
GobBluth72 folds.
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 calls [75].
heret1k checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, Ts, 2c ]
bloomers43 checks.
heret1k checks.
rarebel checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]
bloomers43 checks.
heret1k bets [150].
rarebel folds.
bloomers43 folds.

note how my stack has fallen:

NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17675269 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Thursday, November 24, 00:57:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 66987 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 10: heret1k ( $675 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $1300 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $1935 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $4090 )
Trny:17675269 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ Ac 9h ]
heret1k is all-In [675]
GobBluth72 folds.
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 calls [375].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 6h, 2h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]
heret1k shows [ Ac, 9h ] two pairs, tens and twos.
bloomers43 shows [ Td, Kh ] a full house, Tens full of twos.
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:08 AM
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Default Re: continually running on empty

[ QUOTE ]
standard game, ended up on the bubble again but i was more aggro this game and was up for a while:

Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 3s 3h ]
heret1k raises [100].


[/ QUOTE ]

Don't like it at all, just limp, or even fold. I'd probably fold.

[ QUOTE ]

Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ Td Tc ]
heret1k is all-In [575]


[/ QUOTE ]

Standard, and a good play.

[ QUOTE ]

Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 6s 6c ]
heret1k is all-In [900] (from button)


[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, this is also fine.

[ QUOTE ]

Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ Kc 5c ]
rarebel calls [150].
GobBluth72 folds.
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 calls [75].
heret1k checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, Ts, 2c ]
bloomers43 checks.
heret1k checks.
rarebel checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]
bloomers43 checks.
heret1k bets [150].


[/ QUOTE ]

I think you played that quite well. Maybe bet a little more, though. Say 250.

[ QUOTE ]

Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ Ac 9h ]
heret1k is all-In [675]


[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, also standard. Not sure how you got so low though.
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:14 AM
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Default Re: continually running on empty

yeah i figured that 33 was awful. thanks. what if the 66 was in earlier position? limp or fold? raise?

as to how i got so low, here are the hands after winning the pot in the second to last hand, giving me 1425:

65
96
98s
83
52
K9s
K4
T3
J9
32s
Q7

all folded, putting me at 675. should i have bet with any of these?
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:15 AM
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Default Re: continually running on empty

Hard to tell without situations i.e. what position you were in, if anyone had raised/limped before you, etc.
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:16 AM
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Default Re: continually running on empty

ok i'll be more specific. could have tried for steals, but still not sure which hands to try it with. just anything?

#Game No : 3085995095
***** Hand History for Game 3085995095 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17675269 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Thursday, November 24, 00:53:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 66987 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 10: heret1k ( $1325 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $425 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $885 )
Seat 1: rarebel ( $1525 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $3840 )
Trny:17675269 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 6h 5s ]
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 folds.
heret1k folds.
rarebel calls [100].
GobBluth72 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, Jd, 5h ]
rarebel checks.
GobBluth72 is all-In [685]
rarebel calls [685].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]
** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
rarebel shows [ Ah, 9s ] high card ace.
GobBluth72 shows [ Jc, 7h ] a pair of jacks.
GobBluth72 wins 1770 chips from the main pot with a pair of jacks.
Game #3085998554 starts.

#Game No : 3085998554
***** Hand History for Game 3085998554 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17675269 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Thursday, November 24, 00:54:02 EDT 2005
Table Table 66987 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 10: heret1k ( $1325 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $425 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $1770 )
Seat 1: rarebel ( $640 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $3840 )
Trny:17675269 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 9s 6d ]
bloomers43 folds.
heret1k folds.
rarebel folds.
GobBluth72 raises [300].
lostin111 is all-In [225]
GobBluth72 calls [25].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 5h, 7s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ad ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
GobBluth72 shows [ Kh, Kd ] two pairs, kings and fives.
lostin111 shows [ Jh, 5d ] three of a kind, fives.
lostin111 wins 850 chips from the main pot with three of a kind, fives.
Game #3086000598 starts.

#Game No : 3086000598
***** Hand History for Game 3086000598 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17675269 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Thursday, November 24, 00:54:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 66987 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 10: heret1k ( $1325 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $850 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $1345 )
Seat 1: rarebel ( $640 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $3840 )
Trny:17675269 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 9h 8h ]
heret1k: yeah...
heret1k folds.
rarebel calls [200].
GobBluth72 folds.
heret1k: called with J5..
lostin111 calls [100].
bloomers43 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, Th, 4h ]
lostin111 bets [200].
bloomers43 raises [400].
rarebel folds.
lostin111 is all-In [450]
bloomers43 calls [250].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ]
** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
bloomers43 shows [ 2c, Qh ] a pair of queens.
lostin111 shows [ Ah, 2h ] a flush, ace high.
lostin111 wins 1900 chips from the main pot with a flush, ace high.
Game #3086004921 starts.

#Game No : 3086004921
***** Hand History for Game 3086004921 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17675269 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Thursday, November 24, 00:55:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 66987 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 10: heret1k ( $1325 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $1900 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $1345 )
Seat 1: rarebel ( $440 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $2990 )
Trny:17675269 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 3c 8c ]
rarebel folds.
GobBluth72 folds.
lostin111 calls [200].
bloomers43 calls [100].
heret1k checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 6h, Jc ]
bloomers43 bets [900].
heret1k folds.
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 does not show cards.
bloomers43 wins 1500 chips
Game #3086007641 starts.

#Game No : 3086007641
***** Hand History for Game 3086007641 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17675269 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Thursday, November 24, 00:55:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 66987 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 10: heret1k ( $1125 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $1700 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $1345 )
Seat 1: rarebel ( $440 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $3390 )
Trny:17675269 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 2s 5s ]
GobBluth72 folds.
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 folds.
heret1k folds.
rarebel does not show cards.
rarebel wins 300 chips
Game #3086008428 starts.

#Game No : 3086008428
***** Hand History for Game 3086008428 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17675269 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Thursday, November 24, 00:55:50 EDT 2005
Table Table 66987 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 10: heret1k ( $1025 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $1700 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $1345 )
Seat 1: rarebel ( $540 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $3390 )
Trny:17675269 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ Ks 9s ]
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 folds.
heret1k folds.
rarebel calls [100].
GobBluth72 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, Ts, 4d ]
rarebel checks.
GobBluth72 bets [200].
rarebel folds.
GobBluth72 does not show cards.
GobBluth72 wins 600 chips
Game #3086011401 starts.

#Game No : 3086011401
***** Hand History for Game 3086011401 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17675269 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Thursday, November 24, 00:56:23 EDT 2005
Table Table 66987 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 10: heret1k ( $1025 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $1700 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $1545 )
Seat 1: rarebel ( $340 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $3390 )
Trny:17675269 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 4s Kc ]
bloomers43 raises [400].
heret1k folds.
rarebel folds.
GobBluth72 folds.
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 does not show cards.
bloomers43 wins 700 chips
Game #3086012692 starts.

#Game No : 3086012692
***** Hand History for Game 3086012692 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17675269 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Thursday, November 24, 00:56:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 66987 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 10: heret1k ( $1025 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $1500 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $1445 )
Seat 1: rarebel ( $340 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $3690 )
Trny:17675269 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 3c Tc ]
heret1k folds.
rarebel folds.
GobBluth72 folds.
lostin111 calls [100].
bloomers43 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, 6d, 5c ]
lostin111 checks.
bloomers43 bets [200].
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 does not show cards.
bloomers43 wins 600 chips
Game #3086014935 starts.

#Game No : 3086014935
***** Hand History for Game 3086014935 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17675269 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Thursday, November 24, 00:57:02 EDT 2005
Table Table 66987 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 10: heret1k ( $1025 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $1300 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $1445 )
Seat 1: rarebel ( $340 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $3890 )
Trny:17675269 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 9s Jc ]
rarebel folds.
GobBluth72 folds.
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 raises [300].
heret1k folds.
bloomers43 does not show cards.
bloomers43 wins 600 chips
Game #3086016245 starts.

#Game No : 3086016245
***** Hand History for Game 3086016245 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17675269 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Thursday, November 24, 00:57:16 EDT 2005
Table Table 66987 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 10: heret1k ( $825 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $1300 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $1445 )
Seat 1: rarebel ( $340 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $4090 )
Trny:17675269 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 2c 3c ]
GobBluth72 calls [300].
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 folds.
heret1k folds.
rarebel is all-In [40]
GobBluth72 calls [40].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, 7d, Ad ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kh ]
GobBluth72 shows [ Js, Ts ] a straight, seven to jack.
rarebel shows [ 8s, Kd ] two pairs, kings and eights.
GobBluth72 wins 830 chips from the main pot with a straight, seven to jack.
rarebel finished in fifth place.
rarebel has left the table.
Game #3086018360 starts.

#Game No : 3086018360
***** Hand History for Game 3086018360 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17675269 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Thursday, November 24, 00:57:40 EDT 2005
Table Table 66987 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 10: heret1k ( $675 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $1300 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $1935 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $4090 )
Trny:17675269 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
There is no Small Blind in this hand as the Big Blind of the previous hand left the table.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ Qc 7d ]
heret1k: nh
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 folds.
heret1k folds.
GobBluth72 does not show cards.
GobBluth72 wins 300 chips
Game #3086019662 starts.

#Game No : 3086019662
***** Hand History for Game 3086019662 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17675269 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Thursday, November 24, 00:57:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 66987 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 10: heret1k ( $675 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $1300 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $1935 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $4090 )
Trny:17675269 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ Ac 9h ]
heret1k is all-In [675]
GobBluth72 folds.
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 calls [375].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 6h, 2h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]
heret1k shows [ Ac, 9h ] two pairs, tens and twos.
bloomers43 shows [ Td, Kh ] a full house, Tens full of twos.
bloomers43 wins 1500 chips from the main pot with a full house, Tens full of twos.
heret1k finished in fourth place.
heret1k has left the table.
Game #3086021487 starts.
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:23 AM
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Default Re: continually running on empty

65o, I might push that. And no, I'm not being results oriented lol. But with 6BB and folded to you on the button, it's extremely tempting.

96o easy fold.
98s borderline. Could push, I think a fold is probably better though.
38s, yeah seems fine.
25s, folded to the SB, I'm shoving that holla.
K9s, folded to the button, all in. No question.
K4o standard fold.
T3s, borderline again. I think it's closer to a push than 98s was because you're now down to 5BB..
J9o, yeah it's a fold too, even though min raises are really annoying.
23s is obviously a fold
Q7o is a really easy push
And then we have A9o which obviously you pushed, correctly.
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:28 AM
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so when i'm lower in stack, loosen up my pushing standards, and if folded to me on button or late position, or in sb/bb, push with almost anything? seems to be the general idea. i was really surprised about 25s for example and 65o. aren't i likely to get called eventually before i get ITM? if so i'm probably beat with some of these cards.

the sng guide says aim to steal with 25% of blinds like Ax, pairs, K Q etc. but i think this assumes even stacks.
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:28 AM
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25s, folded to the SB, I'm shoving that holla.


[/ QUOTE ]

Given that the SB is so short, and likely to call w/any two should we still push here?
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:30 AM
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Default Re: continually running on empty

I did all these without SNGPT.. and having checked.. they're all correct. 98s you need them all to call 7% of hands or less, or it's -$EV, and T3s, it rises to 9%, which is as I thought, slightly better (but still borderline).

65o is 12%/17% for SB/BB. Most times, that's a push.
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Old 11-24-2005, 11:00 AM
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Default Re: continually running on empty

[ QUOTE ]
as to how i got so low, here are the hands after winning the pot in the second to last hand, giving me 1425:

65
96
98s
83
52
K9s
K4
T3
J9
32s
Q7

[/ QUOTE ]A real quick look through the hand records you provide a couple of posts down suggests you missed pushing opportunities with K9s and Q7o.
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