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AKo -- how ridiculous is this?
I can sort of see a case for my initial call on the river, but I also realize I got very lucky. Anyway, what do you think?
Feel free to comment on the flop and turn as well. I wasn't really sure what to do during this hand. I was new at the table and have hardly any hands at all with UTG+2 and MP2. Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls. Flop: (16 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks. Turn: (8 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls, SB folds, UTG+2 calls. River: (11 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 calls. Final Pot: 18 BB |
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Re: AKo -- how ridiculous is this?
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I can sort of see a case for my initial call on the river, but I also realize I got very lucky. Anyway, what do you think? Feel free to comment on the flop and turn as well. I wasn't really sure what to do during this hand. I was new at the table and have hardly any hands at all with UTG+2 and MP2. Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls. Flop: (16 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks. Turn: (8 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls, SB folds, UTG+2 calls. River: (11 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 calls. Final Pot: 18 BB [/ QUOTE ] Dude....I really, really like the thought process here anyway. |
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Re: AKo -- how ridiculous is this?
Can you explain the initial call on the river? The 3-bet makes perfect sense with some hand reading on UTG+2 (we're almost never behind, and often ahead of KQ/KJ here).
Maybe i'm just overthinking. Is the call simply becuse we're unsure where we stand against MP2, but getting an overcall from UTG+2 seems probable so we take value that way? |
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Re: AKo -- how ridiculous is this?
Is UTG+2 on KQ-K9s ?
Otherwise I am not understanding the river action. -ZEN |
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Re: AKo -- how ridiculous is this?
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Is the call simply becuse we're unsure where we stand against MP2, but getting an overcall from UTG+2 seems probable so we take value that way? [/ QUOTE ] I'll be disappointed Nice [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. I was thinking you had a nice read on UTG+2 and figured he would go for a c/r and could try feeding MP one at a time for 3 or so. Tell me it's true <3. |
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Re: AKo -- how ridiculous is this?
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[ QUOTE ] Is the call simply becuse we're unsure where we stand against MP2, but getting an overcall from UTG+2 seems probable so we take value that way? [/ QUOTE ] I'll be disappointed Nice [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. I was thinking you had a nice read on UTG+2 and figured he would go for a c/r [/ QUOTE ] From his post: I was new at the table and have hardly any hands at all with UTG+2 and MP2. |
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Re: AKo -- how ridiculous is this?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Is the call simply becuse we're unsure where we stand against MP2, but getting an overcall from UTG+2 seems probable so we take value that way? [/ QUOTE ] I'll be disappointed Nice [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. I was thinking you had a nice read on UTG+2 and figured he would go for a c/r [/ QUOTE ] From his post: I was new at the table and have hardly any hands at all with UTG+2 and MP2. [/ QUOTE ] Perhaps I should go to bet and come back when my brain is working [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] |
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Re: AKo -- how ridiculous is this?
Wow. This hand is great. I love what you did on every street and am slightly worried that I might have played it differently.
Preflop: Book Flop: That's a lot pf players to fire into. betting might actually be a good play if i think about it... but i would check here just about every time. Turn: You might be totally mauled but getting 9:1 on a rainbow board looks good. (I have been folding in spots like these lately... underestimating my overlay(?)... bad news) River: I might not have had the moxie for the river re-raise... but in some alternate universe where people play poker it may have won you the pot if MP2 somehow ditched a better hand. Interested in seeing the results/other posts. |
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Re: AKo -- how ridiculous is this?
I don't understand why the postflop action is great at all.
Preflop is optimal, of course. I don't see why you don't want to bet this flop to clean up pair outs, maximize your chances of getting a free card on the turn, perhaps fold a a small pair or two. Your equity edge is probably no worse than neutral, anyway. 9:1 seems a little thin to peel with on the turn, when you could have probably gotten a much cheaper card had you bet the flop. What range are you anticipating on the river? I wonder how you can put your man squarely on a strong king or worse. It seems much better to go for the overcall; I could be persuaded to fold, if I knew more about MP2, but calling two seems reasonable given the size of the pot and the raggedness of the board. What's your plan if MP2 caps? Vomit and call? |
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Re: AKo -- how ridiculous is this?
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The 3-bet makes perfect sense with some hand reading on UTG+2 (we're almost never behind, and often ahead of KQ/KJ here). [/ QUOTE ] Please stop drinking alcoholic hot sauce. |
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