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Old 11-20-2005, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: fearless 63s

Why are you raising the turn? Sure you have a flush draw, but it's a [censored] one at that. A call here may be OK, a fold might be better. I don't understand the river bet.
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:13 PM
wheelz wheelz is offline
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Default Re: fearless 63s

even if your 3 and 6 outs aren't good your backdoor flush draw is good a massive % of the time and you're getting 4.5:1 on the turn... folding is out of the question
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: fearless 63s

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Looks perfect. River bet is good so he can fold J9, JT, Q9, QT, etc.

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i cant tell if youre being sarcastic, but that turn/river play is indefensibly awful. just terrible.
if he folds JT, i will eat a deck of plastic cards.
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:39 AM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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Default Re: fearless 63s

I was being serious but I didn't consider that the tag is more of a loose passive tag. Josh made a good point about how that effects his hand range and likelihood of folding anything. Against more of the solid/weaktight variety of 10/20 tags I do think this line will get enough better hands to fold though. Those guys will make some laydowns of MP and TP weak kicker on the turn (obviously we'd prefer he fold on the turn but when he doesn't I still think it's worthwhile to fire again). Perhaps I'm way off though. I tend to do moves like this more than most 2+2ers and I'm pretty sure they make guys fold hands fairly frequently where common belief is "nobody's ever folding".
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: fearless 63s

I agree with StellarWind every street seems pretty marginal.

I've been feeling a lot better about my game since I started folding more of these kind of flops.
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