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Old 11-18-2005, 03:43 PM
jcm4ccc jcm4ccc is offline
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Default Re: A stop-and-go hand that actually worked

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horrible fold by villian. horrible call by you. just push it in pre, or fold. great, so it worked. a skilled player would have sent your ass to the cleaners. so good going getting over on a chump

[/ QUOTE ] so if you were me, you would have folded JTo and been down to 4K chips (less than 3M?)
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Old 11-18-2005, 04:06 PM
zambonidrivr zambonidrivr is offline
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Default Re: A stop-and-go hand that actually worked

Yes, I would rather push any 2 in an unopened pot, than make a call here.
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Old 11-18-2005, 04:45 PM
elmitchbo elmitchbo is offline
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Default Re: A stop-and-go hand that actually worked

i totally disagree. i think this is about as ideal a situation as you can get for a stop-n-go. one important thing to remember here is that the stop-n-go is a desperation type of play. it's not really supposed to work that often. the same thing can be said for pushing any 2 with a short stack.... it's far from an ideal situation.

the OP's line gets him maximum value on his hand if it works. i think when you need to make up some ground a high reward move for the same amount of risk is the best play. when you get short stacked the risk of any play is the same, the pay off if your move is succesful is what really needs to be the deciding factor.

as far as the fold goes.... 3:1 odds facing an all-in that will cost you 25% of your stack when you have absolutely nothing? i can't say that's an automatic call. that's the point of the stop-n-go... to give your opponent a chance to have zilch on the flop so he can fold.
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Old 11-18-2005, 04:53 PM
nsj nsj is offline
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Default Re: A stop-and-go hand that actually worked

pushing this preflop is ridiculous, it guarantees a call from standard raising hands, all of which are ahead of TJo preflop.

your stack looks a little too shallow for a stop/go to me here, but it worked out. Fold preflop is fine as well.
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