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Old 11-17-2005, 12:20 PM
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero ($48.78)
MP ($7.95)
CO ($55.65)
Button ($36.80)
SB ($70.15)
BB ($10.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, MP calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50, Button calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1.

Flop: ($7.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, MP folds, CO calls $7, Button folds, BB calls $8.85 (All-In), Hero calls $1.85, CO calls $1.85.

Turn: ($34.30) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ... ???</font>


What should I do here?
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: KK against several opponents

hero shouldve 3bet the flop to try and isolate the allin player.
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: KK against several opponents

There i canīt 3-bet.
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: KK against several opponents

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There i canīt 3-bet.

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In that case, I think you should lead out with a half pot sized bet on the Turn.
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: KK against several opponents

you should be aware of the short stacks and either bet to cover them, or bet so that their push will reopen betting for you. in this case, i'd have just bet what he had left.

i'd bet again on the turn, around $20
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:45 PM
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How I have to bet so I can reopen betting if the short stack goes allin?`

If I bet 20 on Turn, what would u do against a push?
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:52 PM
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How I have to bet so I can reopen betting if the short stack goes allin?

If I bet 20 on Turn, what would u do against a push?

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you'd have to bet half of what the short stack has, but like i said, in this case, with the pot size what it is and no guarantees that shorty will push, i'd have just bet enough to cover him.

if CO pushed over the $20 bet, i'd call and spike a K on the river.
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:57 PM
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you should be aware of the short stacks and either bet to cover them, or bet so that their push will reopen betting for you.

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why? (needless to mention that i disagree)
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: KK against several opponents

On party, folding KK here is probably -EV, stacks would have to be quite deep for me to do such a thing
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