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not so sure about this hand
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com
MP ($406.50) Button ($121.60) SB ($697.50) BB ($573.60) Hero ($1192.75) Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $28</font>, Hero calls $12. Flop: ($58) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $75</font>, Hero calls $75. Turn: ($208) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $75</font>, Hero calls $75. River: ($358) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks alright im 99% sure he has an overpair, other 1% is reserved for the rare times he has AK my 7, 8, and clubs are all good outs how do i maximize value? he will probably go to the felt with even 88 here, so i didnt feel like raising flop/turn was gonna do me any good, especially with the great price he's offering me on the turn i definitely think he will pay off, even if he has like TT and the Ac falls he called a re-raise from button with AJs against my KK and went all-in on a 9TT flop with his draw and spiked an A how much do i bet on river? he's got about pot left |
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Re: not so sure about this hand
I'd go with half pot, you didn't exactly hit the most welldisguised of your draws. I doubt most sane players are paying off with their entire stack here with an overpair.
I like your play on both flop and turn. |
#3
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Re: not so sure about this hand
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I'd go with half pot [/ QUOTE ] are you at my table or something??? oh yeah. you are. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
#4
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Re: not so sure about this hand
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[ QUOTE ] I'd go with half pot [/ QUOTE ] are you at my table or something??? oh yeah. you are. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I didn't see this hand go down tho [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] GG, don't really feel like playing 3 handed vs. you and some unknown. |
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Re: not so sure about this hand
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I didn't see this hand go down tho [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] GG, don't really feel like playing 3 handed vs. you and some unknown. [/ QUOTE ] i got absolutely card. dead. after you joined. playing with 2+2ers = bad mojo |
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Re: not so sure about this hand
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he will probably go to the felt with even 88 here, so i didnt feel like raising flop/turn was gonna do me any good, especially with the great price he's offering me on the turn i definitely think he will pay off, even if he has like TT and the Ac falls [/ QUOTE ] I would still raise this flop, but failing to do that, the turn is good unless you think you can push him off a clearly better hand(seems no). River standard is as you probably know ~half-pot but I guess you can "make a play" and "bluff the scarecard" with an allin if you think it'll work semi-often(as you seem to be thinking, so why not?) |
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Re: not so sure about this hand
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I would still raise this flop, but failing to do that, the turn is good unless you think you can push him off a clearly better hand(seems no). [/ QUOTE ] I think you have very low fold equity on the flop, after that overbet I think he'll be willing to go to the felt w/ his. |
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I think you have very low fold equity on the flop, after that overbet I think he'll be willing to go to the felt w/ his. [/ QUOTE ] Hmm, yes , didn't notice it was an overbet... what do you think of a push here, then? you can't really hope for much better flops than these with SCs in raised pots, and you must have some fold equity then? |
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Re: not so sure about this hand
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[ QUOTE ] I think you have very low fold equity on the flop, after that overbet I think he'll be willing to go to the felt w/ his. [/ QUOTE ] Hmm, yes , didn't notice it was an overbet... what do you think of a push here, then? you can't really hope for much better flops than these with SCs in raised pots, and you must have some fold equity then? [/ QUOTE ] this guy is not folding an overpair (my read, though of course can be wrong, maybe he plays different with full buy-in or more) and i just ran the numbers, it's still an absolute coinflip against an overpair .... with this im still not sure whether waiting to hit since i know exactly his holdings is better than trying to raise somewhere on the flop |
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Re: not so sure about this hand
even a total donkey isn't paying off with an overpair here...the board has a the threeflush and a 4 straight on it...the most obvious draw just got there and you played the hand exactly like you were drawing...your hand isn't real disguised.....i'd make a half-pot to 3/4 pot bet here...whatever I think he might call....if you think this guy might like to make "big calls" on the river to snap off bluffs you could consider a push because it looks more like a bluff than a half pot bet...but that's read dependent....absent a read I make a half pot bet which looks like you are taking a stab at the pot.
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