Pedophilia and You

[hmkpoker]

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IMO teenage girls have excellent instincts regarding relationships.

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I have officially tuned out anything you have to say on this matter.

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ONLY because of that comment? Or did any of the other numerous chauvinistic comments play a part?

I have a lot of mixed feelings about people who have worldviews like him. It's a bit scary... but at the same time I feel sorry for him. Not as much as I feel sorry for his current/future girlfriend/wife, though.

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God, tell me about it. I thought I could muster out something of an intellectual talk about male-femaleness, but that one just sealed the deal of futility.

The truly scary thing is the sheer number of people who share his stupidity, and the fact that they argue for issues regarding the sanctity of marriage.

[Peter666]

Ah guys, are you denying the thing called BAGGAGE? That is probably the predominant relationship buster.

Men don't seem to have a major problem with it. To them, sex is usually just sex. But women have a definite emotional attachment in their serious sexual relationships. They bring these things with them into the next relationship.

I can make a case for it from divorce statistics. A person married a second time is even more likely to divorce than the first time.

[hmkpoker]

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Men don't seem to have a major problem with it. To them, sex is usually just sex. But women have a definite emotional attachment in their serious sexual relationships. They bring these things with them into the next relationship.

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I'm tuning you out too.

[Peter666]

You are denying this psychological reality?

[hmkpoker]

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Men don't seem to have a major problem with it. To them, sex is usually just sex. But women have a definite emotional attachment in their serious sexual relationships. They bring these things with them into the next relationship.

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This is a really, really, really broad statement. It has about as much significance as basing something on the fact that men like enchiladas. Some do, and some don't.

Many men have similar emotional problems with sex after sexual experiences. Many women have no problem having sex just to get off. I would agree that women, statistically, get a little more attached emotionally, but not so much that past sexual experiences are sure (or even likely) to bring an overwhelming sense of anguish to their next sexual relationship. I've had two relationships that lasted over a year, both with women who'd had sexual partners before me, and it didn't seem to bother them at all. We were very open about our pasts. (Ironically, the experience I've had that I felt had the most "baggage" was the one virgin I was with).

From my observations, and from the studies I covered in college (I have a bachelor's in psychology, fwiw) relationships are more successful when there is a similarity in life experiences between the partners. There are a lot of exceptions, of course. However, I'm sure you'll agree that successful couples are usually similar in age, race, background, beliefs, etc. Life experience is similar. It shapes who we are, and sex is a big part of that.

Men and women are not that dissimilar psychologically (at least, not as dissimilar as people with conservative viewpoints would have us believe). Men are not from Mars, and neither women from Venus. We're all from earth, we have very similar psyches, and it happens that like kinds often attract best.

And dude, ugh, why would you want a virgin? It's like a billionaire entrepreneur going into business with someone fresh out of business school.

[Peter666]

Of course my statement was a generality and will not apply in every instance, but it is never the less a generality.

I agree with all you said about sharing similar experiences being the most important factor in a successful marriage.

And I am flattered to be considered a sexual billionaire. I think wanting a virgin is a visceral human emotion similar to jealousy. If someone has cheated on us, we are hurt and jealous. Loss of virginity has less blame associated with it, but the human response can be similar.

When someone is madly in love with someone else, this issue does not seem to matter. But later in the relationship when the passions have cooled down, there can be lots of brooding and thinking of the sexual partners your partner had in the past. This causes feelings of inadequacy and jealousy that can be quite a torment.

Of course, if you have done the same in your past, you are being a hypocrite judging your partner and should grow up. But nevertheless, the natural human emotions are still felt.

[hmkpoker]

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This causes feelings of inadequacy and jealousy that can be quite a torment.

Of course, if you have done the same in your past, you are being a hypocrite judging your partner and should grow up. But nevertheless, the natural human emotions are still felt.

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But I haven't. What are you basing any of this on?

[laurentia]

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Men don't seem to have a major problem with it. To them, sex is usually just sex. But women have a definite emotional attachment in their serious sexual relationships. They bring these things with them into the next relationship.

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I'm tuning you out too.

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Yeah, with your 2 digit IQ you are unfortunately destined to tune out a lot of people.

[TomCollins]

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Ah guys, are you denying the thing called BAGGAGE? That is probably the predominant relationship buster.

Men don't seem to have a major problem with it. To them, sex is usually just sex. But women have a definite emotional attachment in their serious sexual relationships. They bring these things with them into the next relationship.

I can make a case for it from divorce statistics. A person married a second time is even more likely to divorce than the first time.

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This could simply be that people who divorce are more likely to divorce in general.

Suppose two people have marriage failure rates of 50% and 10%, based on their behavior, personalities,etc.. Also assume everyone who divorces remarries.

Take 100 Type A people, 50 will divorce once, and of them, 25 will divorce 2 times.

Take 100 Type B people, 10 will divorce once, and of them, 1 will divorce 2 times.

So of first marriages of the combined groups of 200 marriages, 60 will end up in divorce (30%). Of the 60 second marriages, 26 will end in divorce (43%).

Seems pretty obvious to me.

[hmkpoker]

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Ah guys, are you denying the thing called BAGGAGE? That is probably the predominant relationship buster.

Men don't seem to have a major problem with it. To them, sex is usually just sex. But women have a definite emotional attachment in their serious sexual relationships. They bring these things with them into the next relationship.

I can make a case for it from divorce statistics. A person married a second time is even more likely to divorce than the first time.

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This could simply be that people who divorce are more likely to divorce in general.

Suppose two people have marriage failure rates of 50% and 10%, based on their behavior, personalities,etc.. Also assume everyone who divorces remarries.

Take 100 Type A people, 50 will divorce once, and of them, 25 will divorce 2 times.

Take 100 Type B people, 10 will divorce once, and of them, 1 will divorce 2 times.

So of first marriages of the combined groups of 200 marriages, 60 will end up in divorce (30%). Of the 60 second marriages, 26 will end in divorce (43%).

Seems pretty obvious to me.

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BAGGAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!