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Old 11-14-2005, 05:17 PM
jason_t jason_t is offline
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Why don't you just call him. I don't like raising and folding to a 3bet.

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Because I like getting value out of my hands?
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Old 11-14-2005, 05:30 PM
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Sans reads I probably just call the river bet instead of raising. The problem is here that there ARE maniacs who will 3-bet you with garbage here (something like Tdxd) often enough that you can raise-call on the end profitably, but they're rare. Given that you have no read on MP2, it's almost certainly correct to fold to his 3-bet but you can't be certain -- so I'd rather just call so I get to showdown w/ my overpair AND get information on him.
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Old 11-14-2005, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: KK river fold

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Sans reads I probably just call the river bet instead of raising. The problem is here that there ARE maniacs who will 3-bet you with garbage here (something like Tdxd) often enough that you can raise-call on the end profitably, but they're rare. Given that you have no read on MP2, it's almost certainly correct to fold to his 3-bet but you can't be certain -- so I'd rather just call so I get to showdown w/ my overpair AND get information on him.

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Word. I dig the play with a good read though.
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:05 PM
B Dids B Dids is offline
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Why don't you just call him. I don't like raising and folding to a 3bet.

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Because I like getting value out of my hands?

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Given how difficult a fold feels here, I'm not sure 3-betting really is the best way to extract value.

If he's donking with jank here, how often is he paying off your raise anyway?
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:29 PM
gopnik gopnik is offline
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I don't like this at all.

How many hands that you beat would donk this river and call your raise? I don't really see that many. (you gain 1BB)

How many hands that beat you would value bet this river? (you lose 1BB if you raise)? I see a lot more here.

Plus, if you add the small chance that you got bluffed out of a big pot, I don't like this at all.
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