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Old 11-13-2005, 02:58 PM
naphand naphand is offline
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Default Inside the Poker Mind (Low Content)

Another low content post but what the hell - I have had a ridiculous week.

One thing Feeney does not really deal with in his excellent book is the mind of really stupid LAG-type players.

Let us be really clear about this; online we are making a LOT of money playing against players like those involved below. It is not just about loose-passives. Hands like these crop up really quite regularly - or at least they do if you pick the kind of tables I do. Such examples serve to remind us just WHY and WHO we are making the money from. Learn to love them as they run-over you with their abysmal play.


BEFORE LAG-realisation

$5/$10 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Button has J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (12.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Turn: (7.70 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP calls, Button folds.

River: (9.70 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks.

Final Pot: 9.70 BB

Results:
BB has 3h 2h (one pair, aces).
MP has 9d 9s (two pair, aces and nines).
Outcome: MP wins 9.70 BB.


LAG-realisation

$5/$10 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: BB has Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: (3.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6.00 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">SB folds</font>, BB calls.

River: (13.00 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls (all-in).

Final Pot: 17.00 BB

Results:
BB has Qs Ts (full house, tens full of queens).
UTG has 8c 7h (two pair, tens and eights).
Outcome: BB wins 17 BB. </font>


AFTER LAG-realisation

$5/$10 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: SB has 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Button checks.

River: (12 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Button folds.

Final Pot: 14 BB

Results:
SB has 8h Ah (two pair, aces and eights).
BB has Js Ts (high card, ace).
Outcome: Naphand wins 14 BB.


$5/$10 Hold'em (4 handed) converter

Preflop: Button has Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Button calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.70 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (14.70 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 16.70 BB

Results:
UTG has Kh Qh (one pair, sevens).
Button has Qc Qd (two pair, queens and sevens).
Outcome: Button wins 16.70 BB.


And finally, there are a number of LAGs who will NEVER FOLD once they get into a fight (like the 23s hand above). Note the chat after the play here...


$5/$10 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: CO has A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Button calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (5.70 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (7.70 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 9.70 BB

Results:
CO has Ad As (one pair, aces).
Button has Kh 3h (high card, king).
Outcome: CO wins 9.70 BB.

Button: "i thought so"
Button: "had to see"

All from the last 2-3 days (and there are quite a few more). The time of year? Good times... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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