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Old 11-07-2005, 05:30 PM
fatpants fatpants is offline
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Default Re: I can\'t take this life anymore

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I feel like seeing a doctor would be like admitting my weakness..


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Pure crap.

If you broke your arm would going to the hospital to get a cast be admitting weakness?
If you had bronchitis would taking penecillin be admitting weakness?

Depression is an illness like any physical ailment. Getting medical treatment for it, like any sickness is just prudent and healthy thinking.

Good luck.

FP
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Old 11-09-2005, 12:31 AM
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Im not going to be ugly with you all because I know you are all trying to help. However your medical advice with regards to drug therapy is atrocious. I am a Pharm.D. and experience people with depression and all of the medications spoken of above clinically every single day. Please leave the medical stuff to the professionals and do not discuss things you do not have a clue as to what your talking about. You may do more harm than good. Just because you took it does not mean your an expert.
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Old 11-09-2005, 12:33 AM
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If any of you would like the "right" answer about any of the above I will post it for you.
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:15 AM
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I'm curious what the right answer is.
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:50 AM
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I am late to this thread, but I just wanted to write to let you know that I hope you are able to feel happy and hopeful and positive about your life soon. These suggestions have probably been made already, but:

* See a professional. It might be appropriate to take drugs to deal with your depression, but it might not. Only a reputable doctor can tell.

* It sounds like you have had to deal with some tough circumstances in your life, and they are negatively affecting your view of your self-worth. Realize that you are an important person and that you deserve to be treated with dignity. When you are not, it's not because of some flaw of your own, but rather a flaw in the people who treat you that way.

* Consider volunteering in your community somehow. It sounds like you are shy (so am I), but this is a way to meet people and also to get a new perspective on life. You might consider volunteering at an animal shelter. There you would spend most of your time working with animals and hopefully the other people there would be friendly. (I don't really like animals at all, but I have to admit that every animal lover I have met has been a pretty nice person.) You'd be surprised how something this simple can really change your perspective on life in a radical way.

* Set aside at least one day a week where you will not play poker and you will not stay inside your apartment. You don't have to go out and force yourself to meet people at first, but force yourself to go out and do something active. Such as jogging or walking in a local park, going to a church service, read a book outside somewhere or visit the local library. Try to find a hobby that is unrelated to poker or gambling.

I don't know if these suggestions are right for you, but I just thought I'd give you some ideas to think about.

You have a lot of potential happiness to look forward to, and I hope you are able to find it. Believe in yourself and try not to worry about what other people think of you (I know it's not easy). Because in the end, what others think of you doesn't count for squat. What you think of yourself, whether you are doing what you think is right or not, and what you make of your life is all that matters.
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:39 AM
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So, give us an update dude... whats goin on? You gotten yourself to a trained person yet?
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Old 11-09-2005, 09:41 AM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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i went through a tough time during school as well. i got made fun of alot because i was fairly obese and i faught back rather than made friends with my enemies. my parents taught me to stand up for myself so i did and as a result i was not only obese but hated and the hatred escalated because of my inclination to defend myself. i went through school hating it for the same reasons as you and for a long time alot of my bad childhood experiences scarred me as they do for everybody. by high school i came to realize that fighting back didnt accomplish anything. by this time i was slender and people liked me but i isolated myself because of all the difficulties that i went through when i was younger.

as a kid growing up, i matured in alot of ways quickly while in some ways i matured slowly. i was undeveloped socially and didnt know how to handle myself against my adversaries without making the situation worse.

fortunately my perspective of life is really developing well and i feel that my maturity in most things has grown significantly and my judgment is very good, but i am still underdeveloped in some things and i need to work on them.

i really think that my development as a person comes from my ability to understand logic and reasoning. try to think things through and really try to understand how other people think even when you know they are wrong. i can see arguements from many sides of the table now and can argue from any side which is something i could never do in the past. if you can understand logic and reasoning people will listen to you and they will appreciate your presence because not only can you understand things that they cant, you are able to present your thoughts without offending anybody.

i know that i often offend people and thats something i am working on from a logical standpoint. coming off as arrogant and offensive doesnt benefit me. i also have trouble boosting the confidence of others because thats something noone ever did for me growing up.

most people dont attribute logic and reason with socializing, but i do. i think logic applies to every aspect of life. its your life and you logically need to decide how you are going to live it. if you know what can bring you happiness then you need to take logical steps to make that happen for you. if you want to stay in your room for the rest of your life and think that will make you happy thats a good life. happiness is really all that matters. dont let others judge you. its clear that you arent happy with yourself however so you need to find what will make your life better. sometimes we all really dont know what we want in life. ive been there. im still there to a degree but in the end it all comes down to acceptance.

some of us were put in luckier positions than others. sometimes you will come across somebody who says they wouldnt trade their life with anybody else. thats not because their life is the best life on the entire planet, its because theyve truly found acceptance in their lives. when i compare my life to others it can become depressing or motivating, but im getting better with just appreciating everything that i have. if you can find a way to love your life then others will love you as well. happiness has a domino affect. people surround themselves with people who are happy.
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: I can\'t take this life anymore

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i went through a tough time during school as well. i got made fun of alot because i was fairly obese and i faught back rather than made friends with my enemies. my parents taught me to stand up for myself so i did and as a result i was not only obese but hated and the hatred escalated because of my inclination to defend myself. i went through school hating it for the same reasons as you and for a long time alot of my bad childhood experiences scarred me as they do for everybody. by high school i came to realize that fighting back didnt accomplish anything. by this time i was slender and people liked me but i isolated myself because of all the difficulties that i went through when i was younger.


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I used to take a physical beating at school everyday, I put up with it for a few years without fighting back, I had plenty of times when I considered killing myself, I was fairly big and strong, I just didn't like hitting people. In the end though I decided it was me or them, I doubt I would be here today if I didn't do some real nasty [censored] back then, some people are stupid and if you give them an inch they take a mile. I never fight unless provoked, but at school you are often left with no options, except for head-butting someone on the nose.

To the OP, I hope you can find a way to feel better, it won't be easy though. Good luck.

Mack
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:12 PM
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I'm curious what the right answer is.

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Me too
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: I can\'t take this life anymore

Well I was looking for something to make my 500th post on, and came upon this thread. I just wanted to say to OP there's some great responses and I agree with almost all of them. I was starting to lose a little respect for 2+2 as the flaming that goes on is absurd, but I really enjoyed all of the responses here. What makes you happy? Obviously poker seems to be just something you do. Do you play any other games? If I have ever am struggling, I look to sports, never really poker. Anyways, if you have a hobby or a hobby you'd like to pursue, look to get involved socially with that hobby. There's communities for everything everywhere, I suggest looking into something like that. Even a low stakes holdem' game at a casino is a great way to socialize. I think in my trip to Vegas playing a Saturday night drunken game of 2/5NL where the entire table was yelling and reraising 72o and showing was some of the most fun I had. Granted, I was 6+ Newcastle's deep, but a blast nonetheless. I kind of got off track, but like everyone said... enjoy your life. Find what it is that makes you happy, and do it. If you feel medical help will help, go for it, its not a weakness. Its a strength to be willing to take that step IMHO.

Keep us posted,
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