KQo, very large pot

[eviljeff]

your river call is pretty bad.

folding > raising > calling

do you see why?

[KaiShin]

I'd say its more like folding >>>>>>>>>>>&gt ; raising = calling

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your river call is pretty bad.

folding > raising > calling

do you see why?

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Folding as best play is clear so far.

The raise would face the rest of the field with coldcalling two bets. Could kick someone out and increase my chances.
This is the only explanation I can think of.

[2+2 wannabe]

even if they threw down 4 more river cards you're dead in the water

K-high - SHIP IT!

raise preflop obviously
check/call turn obviously... in game heat most likely led to the overplay =/

but err...

on the river:
raising is not > calling.... nor is it equal.

you have absolutely ZERO chance, whatever you do of picking up the pot here.

raising = lose 2BB
calling = lose 1BB
folding = lose 0BB

So raising is twice as big a mistake as calling here.

[adsman]

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raising = lose 2BB
calling = lose 1BB
folding = lose 0BB

So raising is twice as big a mistake as calling here.

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Folding actually equals lose 38BB here. Just for clarity.

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i disagree. the money put in to the pot so far is no longer yours, and a decent proportion of it was put in correctly.

your river mistake is only the size of the amount you lose on the river.

[crovax4444]

*grunching*

Why did you cap on the flop? At this point, I would have seriously considered going to call-down mode. You have overcards and an open-ended straight. MP3 likes his hand and CO likes it even more. Remember, you want more people in this hand. If you make it 3 bets instead of 2 to the callers, there is a lesser likelyhood of them calling.

Turn: I think your severely behind, and I would just call down here because of odds. Actually, raising for value isn't bad because there are 4 other players, and since 2 of them called 3 last time, there's no reason to think they won't call 1 more. (never mind about the value raise, I didn't realise it droped to 17%)

River: FOLD. I know the pot is big, I know you only have to be correct 2.5% to break even (before rake), but K high is absolutely no good here. Like 0% good here. Just don't develop FPS

[hizo1]

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You overplayed this on the turn. You should just check and call. Your equity has dropped to around 17%.


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Nice. I knew it was correct to ram jam the flop, wasn't sure about the turn. So we basically need 6 players to ram jam the turn right? (all the while making sure we don't cause anyone to fold).

This is not a good river call.

My thoughts on the flop were:
8 outs to the nut straight, with no flush draw on the board.
plus about 3 outs for the overcards.This is about 23.5% with 8 people in the pot.
I considered it raising for value.
My cap could've folded the two non-bettors, though.

Just a thought:
It seems as if MP3 would reraise anyway. Calling would trap the two callers if the cap came behind them.
I think this play has a higher probability of keeping them in, than facing them with 2 bets cold.

I tilted on the turn and river, which I should've called down and folded.
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