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Old 11-06-2005, 04:19 AM
Walker Walker is offline
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Default a pair, gutshot, and the 2nd nut one card flush draw

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I limp J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the button behind 5 fishy limpers.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

EP bets out, a bunch of people call, pretty well everybody calls, I raise, pretty well everybody calls.

Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

checked to CO (loose/passive) who bets, I think for awhile and fold.

Should I be raising this flop? I figured it was probably for value, plus it helps define the hand if the club comes.
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Old 11-06-2005, 04:37 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: a pair, gutshot, and the 2nd nut one card flush draw

I wouldn't fold the turn. I don't think CO is bluffing, exactly, and I do think he probably has the K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], but bad players sometimes overestimate the value of their hand on unusual boards.

The flop raise seems all right to me. If I thought there was a good chance the EP bettor would 3-bet, though, that would make me hesitate.
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