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Re: Calling with Q-high?
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IMO calling here is ludicrous. There's no way he has <=10-high 1 time in 6. [/ QUOTE ] Ludicrous? lol. That's a strong adjective. I'm sorry to inform you that ppl even the AF <1 bunch DO bluff. But you wouldn't know that b/c "there's no way he has <=10-high 1 time in 6". I on the other hand prefer to challenge my read ability. |
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Re: Calling with Q-high?
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...the turn call is just bad. Raising is better, but not much. I fold the turn and the river. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that the turn is the best spot to find a fold. I decided to call down this one from the flop for image reasons as well, since I had folded in 2 occasions of donk bets already from him. I don't personally like the turn raise for the reason I gave above |
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Re: Calling with Q-high?
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Getting back to your game and the turn. With just 4.5BBs in the pot you have a marginal call here as your spade outs are crippled. You have 2 Qs that will give you top pair and 3 8s and 3 Ks that will give you a fairly good straight, so 8 outs for about a 4.7:1 shot. [/ QUOTE ] 4.7:1 is fine for me. Add the nice implied odds I get from his T making a worse straight than mine. |
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Re: Calling with Q-high?
I'm with Redd on this one. When I saw the post title I was expecting to see a bunch of A's & K's on the board. There may be rare spots to call w/ Q-high and I don't think this is it.
I think the flop & turn are fine FWIW. |
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Re: Calling with Q-high?
Raising is better than calling on the river.
I like folding on the turn. |
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Re: Calling with Q-high?
I think the read you need is how often is he seeing the showdown.
I'd play exactly the same up til the river. On the turn you have the odds to peel another card. River is read dependent what do you think he has? I think Qhigh suck. Without a strong read one way or the other I think I call Raising would be a very creative option but I wouldn't have the balls to do it. |
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Re: Calling with Q-high?
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[ QUOTE ] IMO calling here is ludicrous. There's no way he has <=10-high 1 time in 6. [/ QUOTE ] Ludicrous? lol. That's a strong adjective. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sorry if I offended you; that isn't my intent. I agree it is a pretty strong word, and I'm not just trying to be glib or melodramatic (I honestly try to avoid stuff like that). I just think this is a really bad place to call and wanted my language to reflect that. I mean, people have posted Villains calling down with Q-high on scary boards in the NC thread before. [ QUOTE ] I'm sorry to inform you that ppl even the AF <1 bunch DO bluff. But you wouldn't know that b/c "there's no way he has <=10-high 1 time in 6". I on the other hand prefer to challenge my read ability. [/ QUOTE ] I suppose I should say given the read you provided, there's no way he has <=10-high 1 time in 6. While passives occasionally bluff, the most important point is that the pot size does not justify the chance that this opponent bluffing IMO. |
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Re: Calling with Q-high?
I was not offended I feel 100% certain about the river play. I just dont think melodrama is useful here.
I didn't say he was passive. Peace |
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